1 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:04,280 my my good people of the internet it 2 00:00:08,299 --> 00:00:06,480 looks like christmas is finally here and 3 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,309 i got some of my guests here to help me 4 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:10,320 help you spread a little holiday love 5 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:13,200 good look oh well I know you're a tire 6 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:15,150 size yes we couldn't be more giddy about 7 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:16,980 it and why not celebrate the corporate 8 00:00:21,019 --> 00:00:18,750 driven season of spending with a gift 9 00:00:22,759 --> 00:00:21,029 that oh so ironically spits right in the 10 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:22,769 face of the Christmas machine with the 11 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:24,869 sweet sweet softness of a t-shirt for 12 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:26,670 the rebellious fashionista in your life 13 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:28,320 for my little clothing brand over at 14 00:00:32,959 --> 00:00:31,050 conspiracy's net this is one of the most 15 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:32,969 degrading things that anyone could 16 00:00:36,650 --> 00:00:33,840 possibly do 17 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:36,660 thanks for even or better yet give them 18 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:38,129 the gift that gives all year long with 19 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:40,410 the subscription of THD plus for one of 20 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:42,600 your oh so precious friends and family I 21 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:44,340 know that's what Jim Marrs is doing 22 00:00:49,639 --> 00:00:46,800 right man well I'm kind of on the fence 23 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:49,649 myself guys this is not constructive 24 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:51,210 Duncan Trussell help me out here 25 00:00:56,299 --> 00:00:54,510 if I were sane the first idea I'd want 26 00:00:58,130 --> 00:00:56,309 to implant into their heads is okay 27 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,140 that's not what I had in mind either but 28 00:01:02,779 --> 00:01:00,719 if you know someone who enjoys THC just 29 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:02,789 go to the higher side chats plus calm 30 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:04,739 with any credit or debit card and put in 31 00:01:08,090 --> 00:01:06,450 the email address and information for 32 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:08,100 that special someone in your life rather 33 00:01:12,859 --> 00:01:10,380 than yourself I know I and all the great 34 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:12,869 guests on THC would really appreciate it 35 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:14,970 we don't want to kill anybody hurt 36 00:01:19,999 --> 00:01:17,850 anybody we want to make a system to work 37 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:20,009 Jacque I think that approach is actually 38 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:22,080 illegal let's not do that it was a great 39 00:01:26,539 --> 00:01:24,570 idea what it doesn't go far enough no 40 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:26,549 man it went too far but guys all I'm 41 00:01:31,490 --> 00:01:29,369 saying is a year or six months the THC 42 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:31,500 plus makes a great gift believe me I 43 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:33,030 just signed douglas dietrich up for a 44 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:34,880 year and he couldn't be happier 45 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:40,650 okay I love you dearly yes honestly you 46 00:01:44,510 --> 00:01:42,479 flatter me too much if you were a member 47 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:44,520 of the opposite sex I would propose see 48 00:01:55,950 --> 00:01:47,690 what I tell you Merry Christmas people 49 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:59,530 the planets puffin masters almost surely 50 00:02:03,340 --> 00:02:01,040 have a plan 51 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:03,350 this clearly made me something near 52 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:06,399 beyond the realm of man 53 00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:10,670 tested every last coaster I find the 54 00:02:19,119 --> 00:02:12,860 more you think you know the less you 55 00:02:34,890 --> 00:02:19,129 really do that's true dr. Zaius without 56 00:02:40,059 --> 00:02:38,229 all right higher side chatters we've all 57 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:40,069 heard the arthur c-- clark quote that 58 00:02:44,259 --> 00:02:41,930 any sufficiently advanced technology is 59 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:44,269 indistinguishable from magic but maybe 60 00:02:47,619 --> 00:02:45,409 they're linked by more than just 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:47,629 appearance because it seems that most 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:49,250 people who study the smattering of 63 00:02:52,539 --> 00:02:50,810 crumbs the deep state has dropped over 64 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:52,549 the past few decades we'll find a few 65 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:54,650 curious connections between occult 66 00:02:58,809 --> 00:02:56,959 practices and technological advancements 67 00:03:00,850 --> 00:02:58,819 strange phenomenon and secret 68 00:03:02,559 --> 00:03:00,860 experiments and let's not forget the 69 00:03:04,449 --> 00:03:02,569 curious resurrection of ancient 70 00:03:05,710 --> 00:03:04,459 babylonian names from companies on the 71 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:05,720 bleeding edge of things we'll probably 72 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:08,750 never even see it's true that odd pieces 73 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:10,790 that seem unrelated often come together 74 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,620 when you dig deep enough to find the 75 00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:14,959 ties that bind although what can be 76 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:16,940 overwhelming and often glossed over is 77 00:03:20,589 --> 00:03:18,620 the vast amount of knowledge a person 78 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:20,599 needs to put these odd pieces in the 79 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:22,790 proper context because what good is a 80 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:24,440 NASA investigator who knows nothing 81 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:26,870 about ancient Egyptian mythology how 82 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:28,670 valuable is a ufologist who's never 83 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:30,650 studied the occult and can a person 84 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:32,450 really decode Hollywood symbolism 85 00:03:36,819 --> 00:03:34,220 accurately without crack and open a book 86 00:03:39,099 --> 00:03:36,829 on Kabbalah my point is that true 87 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:39,109 conspiracy research is a vast and 88 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:41,000 interdisciplinary undertaking that few 89 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:42,590 people are willing to follow through to 90 00:03:46,839 --> 00:03:44,780 its deepest depths but lucky for us 91 00:03:49,180 --> 00:03:46,849 today's returning guest Chris Knowles is 92 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:49,190 one of the respectable few who is chris 93 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:50,840 is the author of several great books 94 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:52,970 including our gods where spandex the 95 00:03:56,979 --> 00:03:54,889 secret history of comic book heroes and 96 00:03:59,620 --> 00:03:56,989 the secret history of rock and roll the 97 00:04:01,180 --> 00:03:59,630 mysterious roots of modern music and of 98 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:01,190 course he's been decoding the esoteric 99 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:03,200 themes of pop culture and para politics 100 00:04:07,420 --> 00:04:05,660 for years on his vlog the secret son you 101 00:04:09,789 --> 00:04:07,430 know him you love him Chris my man 102 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:09,799 welcome back to the higher side oh it's 103 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:11,599 great to be here Greg always a pleasure 104 00:04:16,060 --> 00:04:14,120 yeah I'm psyched to have you here thanks 105 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:16,070 for doing it you've been diving down 106 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:18,260 quite a few under explored rabbit holes 107 00:04:21,699 --> 00:04:20,060 on your blog these past few months from 108 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:21,709 Bell Labs dirty laundry to the 109 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:22,250 lesser-known 110 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,650 m'kay often project and you always get 111 00:04:28,570 --> 00:04:26,240 me thinking differently about a lot of 112 00:04:31,210 --> 00:04:28,580 these things yeah well that's what I try 113 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:31,220 to do I mean I tried to look at you know 114 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:33,289 when people are marching down one Avenue 115 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:35,270 I kind of look and see where the side 116 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:37,490 streets are you know and where they lead 117 00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:40,370 and it's paid off in interesting ways 118 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:44,150 especially this year I mean this is kind 119 00:04:50,119 --> 00:04:46,889 of an all bets are off year yes 120 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:50,129 in so many ways it's like so many of 121 00:04:59,390 --> 00:04:54,680 like the strangest most off-the-wall 122 00:05:03,200 --> 00:04:59,400 theories and speculations that that 123 00:05:05,929 --> 00:05:03,210 we've had almost seem like conservative 124 00:05:07,999 --> 00:05:05,939 at some point is I mean it's so much 125 00:05:11,719 --> 00:05:08,009 high strangeness is bubbling to the 126 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:11,729 surface yet again it definitely reminds 127 00:05:18,649 --> 00:05:15,330 me of that period during the first Bush 128 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:18,659 administration when so much you know you 129 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:20,490 had that the Franklin scandal come to 130 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:22,740 light you had things like Waco and Ruby 131 00:05:29,420 --> 00:05:25,650 Ridge you had you know the emergence of 132 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:29,430 hacker culture you had the the wars over 133 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:31,409 political correctness and identity 134 00:05:36,529 --> 00:05:32,520 politics 135 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:36,539 you had the wars in the Middle East so 136 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:39,930 many of these themes and threads that 137 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:43,860 emerged almost 30 years ago now and I'm 138 00:05:47,809 --> 00:05:45,539 not only back but they've kind of 139 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:47,819 metastasized I mean if they kind of 140 00:05:55,550 --> 00:05:52,710 grown beyond anyone's wildest imaginings 141 00:05:59,300 --> 00:05:55,560 I mean hacker culture I think is very 142 00:06:02,719 --> 00:05:59,310 much a central story to this election 143 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:02,729 and you know I have my own theories on 144 00:06:06,559 --> 00:06:04,649 that I you know I I don't believe that 145 00:06:10,249 --> 00:06:06,569 that all these leagues that we're seeing 146 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:10,259 are the work of Russian hackers I think 147 00:06:14,659 --> 00:06:12,810 that's absurd right and I don't believe 148 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:14,669 that the work is just like some guy 149 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:16,319 whose basement you know munching on 150 00:06:19,969 --> 00:06:17,849 Cheetos and drinking Mountain Dew I 151 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:19,979 think no that's equally absurd I think 152 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:24,750 that this is a time like that 153 00:06:34,189 --> 00:06:30,240 era that point in the timeline is Gordon 154 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:34,199 white would say where the machinations 155 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:39,539 of the secret world emerge that pop up 156 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:42,330 from their underground lairs from their 157 00:06:49,629 --> 00:06:44,610 you know their mile deep underground 158 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:49,639 cities and whatnot yeah yeah and and and 159 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:53,039 look around and move the the chess 160 00:06:58,519 --> 00:06:56,250 pieces around the board a bit right I 161 00:07:00,439 --> 00:06:58,529 think that's really what we see but it's 162 00:07:04,939 --> 00:07:00,449 just astonishing to me 163 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:04,949 that we're seeing so many themes that 164 00:07:12,019 --> 00:07:08,849 feel so almost chop worn to me yeah like 165 00:07:16,999 --> 00:07:12,029 an like an old pair of jeans almost play 166 00:07:20,089 --> 00:07:17,009 out in such a way and not only in a para 167 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:20,099 political sense but you know so many of 168 00:07:27,969 --> 00:07:24,479 the ideas that say a science fiction 169 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:27,979 feature is like William Gibson was 170 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:30,210 putting forth you know this whole idea 171 00:07:36,999 --> 00:07:34,319 of the super-rich trying to break away 172 00:07:40,089 --> 00:07:37,009 you know particularly in Silicon Valley 173 00:07:42,350 --> 00:07:40,099 trying to break away from reality 174 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:42,360 they're actually trying to hack reality 175 00:07:50,119 --> 00:07:45,449 now it's I mean they've become so 176 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:50,129 delusional and so dislocated from you 177 00:07:57,170 --> 00:07:52,800 know the the money and power it always 178 00:07:59,869 --> 00:07:57,180 it always creates I think a psychotic 179 00:08:03,559 --> 00:07:59,879 state of mind I think that's that's a 180 00:08:07,159 --> 00:08:03,569 story as old as time right but also the 181 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:07,169 power of hacking not only these deep 182 00:08:12,820 --> 00:08:09,599 state players that we've seen but just 183 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:12,830 that none of your secrets are safe from 184 00:08:18,559 --> 00:08:16,289 determined cyber thieves and things like 185 00:08:22,010 --> 00:08:18,569 that that hacking wars are going to 186 00:08:24,589 --> 00:08:22,020 become a major story you know we had the 187 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:24,599 Obama administration say oh here we come 188 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:26,370 Russkies put up your dukes we're going 189 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:30,209 to be you know declaring cyber war on 190 00:08:34,490 --> 00:08:32,010 you you know here we come you know it 191 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:34,500 was it was an absurd story it was just 192 00:08:40,490 --> 00:08:37,440 it was a story created to perpetuate 193 00:08:44,209 --> 00:08:40,500 this illusion that the leaks were all 194 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:44,219 coming from Russia but it does speak to 195 00:08:49,790 --> 00:08:47,459 the steeper reality so I mean to make a 196 00:08:52,939 --> 00:08:49,800 very long story short all these themes 197 00:08:55,699 --> 00:08:52,949 that I've been watching for a very long 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:08:55,709 time are now becoming dominant they're 199 00:09:02,689 --> 00:08:59,569 now becoming major news breakers 200 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:02,699 absolutely and that's I think that's 201 00:09:11,569 --> 00:09:07,410 part of the tapestry of this year but 202 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:11,579 also the underbelly of that you know of 203 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:13,120 the ten 204 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:14,800 you know that we also saw you know when 205 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:17,260 the whole thing with the the midnight 206 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:19,600 runs to the White House made the front 207 00:09:23,579 --> 00:09:21,580 page of the Washington Times during the 208 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:23,589 first Bush administration I think we're 209 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:26,050 seeing a repeat of that with these these 210 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:28,300 a pizza parlors and things like that I 211 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:31,839 mean it may well never you know does it 212 00:09:37,769 --> 00:09:35,230 may never pop publicly right but I think 213 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:37,779 what we're seeing is very intense power 214 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:40,930 politics play out in a semi-public 215 00:09:46,950 --> 00:09:44,529 fashion I agree with you so it's it's 216 00:09:52,110 --> 00:09:46,960 just really amazing becomes again the 217 00:09:55,019 --> 00:09:52,120 currents here are not the currents that 218 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:55,029 you know Joe and Jane Q public think 219 00:09:59,430 --> 00:09:56,770 that they're watching I mean what we're 220 00:10:02,280 --> 00:09:59,440 seeing is it was seeing deep state 221 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:02,290 technology we're seeing secret 222 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:04,890 machinations we're seeing the occult 223 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:07,990 we're seeing you know the sexual 224 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:10,870 demi-monde and in the artistic 225 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:14,470 demi-monde sort of combined in this very 226 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:17,050 strange fashion right spirit cooking and 227 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:21,820 all that yes exactly I mean it's uh 228 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:23,650 you know and and the thing that I 229 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:25,240 pointed out that was even worse in the 230 00:10:30,269 --> 00:10:28,630 spirit cooking which is repugnant enough 231 00:10:32,130 --> 00:10:30,279 I mean everybody's focusing on the this 232 00:10:34,829 --> 00:10:32,140 whole cakes of light kind of idea that 233 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:34,839 you put to put that whole performance 234 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:39,570 wishys she has this crouching statue of 235 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:43,570 a child and she's drenching it in pig's 236 00:10:51,630 --> 00:10:48,370 blood it's psychotic its sadistic it's 237 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:51,640 beyond psychopathic its repugnant but 238 00:10:58,850 --> 00:10:55,600 the installation that she did in Germany 239 00:11:02,400 --> 00:10:58,860 where she bakes these very realistic 240 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:02,410 cakes in the shapes of naked women and 241 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,070 then she invites all these sheshe night 242 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:08,320 club people to essentially cannibalize 243 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:11,670 them you know and this this is it 244 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:14,260 reminds me of the kind of escalating 245 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:16,360 behavior that you see among serial 246 00:11:21,449 --> 00:11:18,610 killers wit they don't just wake up one 247 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:21,459 morning and decide to rape and mutilate 248 00:11:25,930 --> 00:11:22,720 some woman and 249 00:11:27,970 --> 00:11:25,940 you know cooker fingers or something you 250 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:27,980 know it's like there's a series of steps 251 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:30,320 that that lead them to that and in that 252 00:11:36,910 --> 00:11:33,620 whole that whole performance seemed to 253 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:36,920 me like an invitation to that mindset it 254 00:11:44,139 --> 00:11:39,200 was just so repugnant it 255 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:44,149 it's beyond imagining that this person 256 00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:45,950 has some sort of cachet in the 257 00:11:51,490 --> 00:11:50,060 legitimate art world because it's it's 258 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:51,500 so obvious 259 00:12:01,840 --> 00:11:57,250 psychotic miss misogynist misanthropic 260 00:12:03,579 --> 00:12:01,850 you know adjectives value its beyond 261 00:12:06,850 --> 00:12:03,589 imagining and you can't believe that 262 00:12:08,590 --> 00:12:06,860 you're watching it yeah man these 263 00:12:10,990 --> 00:12:08,600 definitely are interesting times I'm 264 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:11,000 sure a lot of the listeners have been 265 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:12,200 keeping up with the peaks behind the 266 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:13,850 veil that you're referring to but to 267 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:15,290 give them some context of course we have 268 00:12:20,319 --> 00:12:17,870 the pizza gate child trafficking scandal 269 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:20,329 where best of pizza seems to be a type 270 00:12:24,699 --> 00:12:22,670 of hub for this activity and then of 271 00:12:26,949 --> 00:12:24,709 course this Marina Abramovic 272 00:12:28,990 --> 00:12:26,959 artist who's doing all these cannibal 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:29,000 cake dinners and real dark blood and 274 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:31,130 semen paste rituals Palin around with 275 00:12:35,050 --> 00:12:32,810 the Clinton team and the Hollywood elite 276 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:35,060 all coming out of the Podesta email 277 00:12:39,579 --> 00:12:37,250 leaks and there's still quite a bit of 278 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:39,589 digging to be done but in terms of the 279 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:42,170 election I mean in my lifetime I've only 280 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:44,570 seen the baton handed from Bush to 281 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:46,850 Clinton to Bush to Obama which is 282 00:12:51,009 --> 00:12:48,740 basically the Clinton Network again and 283 00:12:53,410 --> 00:12:51,019 I was pretty surprised that it didn't go 284 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:53,420 to Hillary it is kind of exciting to see 285 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:55,760 what at least seems on the surface to be 286 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:58,010 a shock to the system and it makes me 287 00:13:02,769 --> 00:13:00,079 think that some higher level of the 288 00:13:04,689 --> 00:13:02,779 power pyramid has discarded the Clinton 289 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:04,699 Network and aired enough dirty laundry 290 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:05,630 of theirs that they're going to have a 291 00:13:10,329 --> 00:13:07,910 really hard time getting any footing at 292 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:10,339 this point so at least that might be a 293 00:13:16,390 --> 00:13:13,250 good thing well it's interesting because 294 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:20,019 yeah I might be jaundiced and jaded at 295 00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:23,210 this point in time and you know I'm sure 296 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:26,300 a lot of Trump fans are going to be 297 00:13:32,290 --> 00:13:29,270 upset about this but I see him basically 298 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:32,300 as you know an anchorman and that 299 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:34,490 somebody else is writing the news yeah 300 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:37,400 you know that there are players beyond 301 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:41,270 our view that we can't really see what's 302 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:43,610 happening I'm you know I'm getting a 303 00:13:48,190 --> 00:13:46,190 very strange vibe and I can't really 304 00:13:51,190 --> 00:13:48,200 tell you exactly what I think is 305 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:51,200 happening but all I can say is that the 306 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:54,410 the aftermath of this election is unlike 307 00:14:02,380 --> 00:13:57,490 any any which I've seen in the past 308 00:14:05,769 --> 00:14:02,390 there is an eerie calm that has sort of 309 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:05,779 descended upon Washington I mean is 310 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:08,450 everybody lawyer up you know just the 311 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:11,450 fact as we speak today yesterday the 312 00:14:17,530 --> 00:14:13,370 trans-pacific partnership was just 313 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:17,540 scrapped yeah I mean this trade 314 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:19,490 agreement that had been worked on for a 315 00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:23,240 number of years by very very powerful 316 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:25,940 players they just drop it just like that 317 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:30,470 uh very strange are they changing the 318 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:33,680 playbook yeah I I really don't know I 319 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:36,350 don't really you know this gets into a 320 00:14:44,769 --> 00:14:40,490 layer of speculation that would require 321 00:14:49,449 --> 00:14:44,779 a whole different set of rules you know 322 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:49,459 of engagement here I think that 323 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,330 something very fundamental has changed I 324 00:14:58,390 --> 00:14:56,000 don't know what's going to replace it 325 00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:58,400 we have no idea with what could replace 326 00:15:04,990 --> 00:15:01,120 it could be much worse we don't know yet 327 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:05,000 but I think that much more than an 328 00:15:10,449 --> 00:15:08,150 election was lost to certain parties and 329 00:15:13,810 --> 00:15:10,459 I don't mean political parties I mean to 330 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:13,820 certain parties of interest I just get a 331 00:15:18,699 --> 00:15:16,490 very strange sense that's something much 332 00:15:22,390 --> 00:15:18,709 deeper is going on and it's probably 333 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:22,400 something that is going to come out but 334 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:24,470 I just want to be put on the record 335 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:29,230 today as of 11 11 16 336 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:32,769 I think that we saw something much more 337 00:15:42,629 --> 00:15:37,920 than an election we saw a very profound 338 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:42,639 shift in power and I can't say whether 339 00:15:48,449 --> 00:15:44,910 that's a good thing or not right because 340 00:15:50,610 --> 00:15:48,459 we don't know who the players are but 341 00:15:53,129 --> 00:15:50,620 just the fact you know that I keep 342 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:53,139 telling people that the fact that people 343 00:16:00,540 --> 00:15:56,350 like John Podesta enjoyed Soros and 344 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:00,550 Hillary Clinton were basically batted 345 00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:03,010 around like kittens with a ball of 346 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:04,750 string with all this hacking and all 347 00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:07,240 these revelations and you know even if 348 00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:09,579 the media didn't cover it they knew that 349 00:16:13,050 --> 00:16:10,959 the media wasn't going to cover it I 350 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:13,060 don't think the point was to have this 351 00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:14,649 stuff come out like Watergate because 352 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:18,040 they knew whoever is orchestrating these 353 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:21,420 revelations knew that the media is 354 00:16:26,670 --> 00:16:25,060 basically the propaganda wing of the 355 00:16:28,579 --> 00:16:26,680 Democratic Party we know this because of 356 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:28,589 the journalists during a list 357 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:30,670 revelations that have come out we know 358 00:16:37,889 --> 00:16:34,240 this because of the DNC leaks where you 359 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:37,899 know people from major new sites like 360 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:40,560 Politico and everything are basically 361 00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:43,360 acting as gnaw grocers for the Clinton 362 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:44,980 campaign and things like that so I don't 363 00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:49,120 think they were expecting this to end up 364 00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:50,860 as the new Watergate I think that they 365 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:53,320 were just basically serving notice to 366 00:16:59,370 --> 00:16:55,570 the targets that their secrets are not 367 00:17:03,230 --> 00:16:59,380 safe and hence they themselves are not 368 00:17:07,169 --> 00:17:03,240 safe I think that there was a definite 369 00:17:08,490 --> 00:17:07,179 agenda that that we're not seeing so I'm 370 00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:08,500 again it's something that I can only 371 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:10,150 speculate on I could be totally wrong 372 00:17:17,579 --> 00:17:14,250 but you don't get away with hacking 373 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:17,589 somebody who's crashed the economies of 374 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:21,040 entire nations you know it just doesn't 375 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:22,419 happen these things just don't happen 376 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:24,220 we're seeing things that aren't supposed 377 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:26,890 to happen happen you know what I mean 378 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,230 and this whole thing you know this whole 379 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:31,120 I mean I was watching Bill Maher the 380 00:17:36,990 --> 00:17:34,000 other night and like this whole like red 381 00:17:39,899 --> 00:17:37,000 scare Russians did this the Russians did 382 00:17:41,159 --> 00:17:39,909 that they date Bill Maher is an idiot so 383 00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:41,169 he might actually believe that the 384 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:42,790 Russians are responsible from it 385 00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:46,810 but there's no way there is no way I I 386 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:50,500 would bet my my house on this that the 387 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:53,440 people in positions of real power 388 00:17:57,150 --> 00:17:55,240 believe that the Russians had anything 389 00:18:00,560 --> 00:17:57,160 to do with this I just this is no way 390 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:00,570 right so but it's interesting because 391 00:18:05,670 --> 00:18:03,430 this ties into you know what we are 392 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:05,680 going to talk about this whole idea of 393 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:10,150 technology as a Trojan horse and that's 394 00:18:18,990 --> 00:18:13,990 sort of the undercurrent all along and 395 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:19,000 this that series that I had done quite 396 00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:22,210 accidentally I didn't intend to that for 397 00:18:26,580 --> 00:18:23,920 that to become a series it just it just 398 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:26,590 happened I mean let me just preface this 399 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:28,570 and we're talking about a series I but I 400 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:32,080 called lucifer's technologies right and 401 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:34,630 whether it actually started as was just 402 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:36,970 a filler post I just needed I just 403 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:38,860 hadn't posted for a couple of days and I 404 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:40,240 need to just put up a post so I thought 405 00:18:46,170 --> 00:18:42,610 I'll just post on this you know this 406 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:46,180 dopey Fox TV show about you know based 407 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:48,490 on the Lucifer graphic novels which I 408 00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:52,570 was you know a fan of and I don't know 409 00:18:57,900 --> 00:18:54,340 something was just bugging me something 410 00:19:00,930 --> 00:18:57,910 was just itching at me and it just grew 411 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:00,940 and grew and grew and grow right I 412 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:03,940 definitely love that series and it gets 413 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:06,160 deeper and deeper as it progresses but 414 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:08,530 to get this well let me just say this of 415 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:09,970 all the information that I put out there 416 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:12,910 I mean this so much more that I didn't 417 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:15,400 mm-hmm and the reason being is that when 418 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:18,690 I post you know I edit very heavily I 419 00:19:25,380 --> 00:19:23,260 try to get to the core but there is a 420 00:19:27,390 --> 00:19:25,390 lot of information you know supplemental 421 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:27,400 information explanatory information a 422 00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:30,790 lot of information that I feel to really 423 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:33,820 get at this story and to really get the 424 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:35,470 message across the people it really 425 00:19:42,419 --> 00:19:40,330 needs to be a book so I think you know 426 00:19:45,299 --> 00:19:42,429 at some point I mean I 427 00:19:47,369 --> 00:19:45,309 haven't published a book in a while and 428 00:19:49,619 --> 00:19:47,379 there there are a lot of good reasons 429 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:49,629 for that a lot of it has to do with my 430 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:52,360 schedule with my day job but a lot of it 431 00:19:56,399 --> 00:19:53,710 just has to do with the reality of the 432 00:19:58,739 --> 00:19:56,409 publishing world which is pretty grim 433 00:20:00,480 --> 00:19:58,749 right and a lot of it just has to do 434 00:20:04,289 --> 00:20:00,490 with when you deal with it with an 435 00:20:07,259 --> 00:20:04,299 actual publisher I've heard oh I mean 436 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:07,269 it's it's brutal the amount of Hoops 437 00:20:11,549 --> 00:20:09,460 that you have to jump through even with 438 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:11,559 it like what you would think would be a 439 00:20:18,060 --> 00:20:16,210 relatively accommodating independent 440 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:18,070 publisher in some ways they're even 441 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:20,970 worse but the point is is that that 442 00:20:25,999 --> 00:20:23,289 series which turned out to be rather 443 00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:26,009 large and then I did a spin-off series 444 00:20:32,659 --> 00:20:29,259 where I wanted to sort of dig into the 445 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:32,669 actual origin of the Lucifer archetype 446 00:20:37,889 --> 00:20:35,919 because most people sort of stopped most 447 00:20:41,899 --> 00:20:37,899 people sort of stopped at a certain 448 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:41,909 point sort of the greco-roman era and 449 00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:44,940 some reason I was sensing very strongly 450 00:20:50,489 --> 00:20:48,549 that it goes much farther back that it 451 00:20:54,749 --> 00:20:50,499 has nothing to do with devil as a 452 00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:54,759 demonology that is you know a number of 453 00:21:01,409 --> 00:20:58,559 different reasons why it became that way 454 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:01,419 but the you know at the core of it there 455 00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:05,850 was a very powerful idea that is 456 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:09,960 essentially a secret tradition and that 457 00:21:16,379 --> 00:21:13,809 the reality of this tradition has been 458 00:21:18,029 --> 00:21:16,389 kept from us right and how do we know 459 00:21:19,549 --> 00:21:18,039 this how do we know that you know 460 00:21:23,639 --> 00:21:19,559 anybody could never that sounds like 461 00:21:26,009 --> 00:21:23,649 just kind of all research hyperbole 462 00:21:28,350 --> 00:21:26,019 right how do we make that case well we 463 00:21:30,810 --> 00:21:28,360 make that case because when we see the 464 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:30,820 shreds of information that we do have on 465 00:21:34,859 --> 00:21:32,769 this figure it's like you know this 466 00:21:37,289 --> 00:21:34,869 figure his his mind is greater than all 467 00:21:40,529 --> 00:21:37,299 the gods you know he's the first bro he 468 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:40,539 is the firstborn son of God you know he 469 00:21:46,499 --> 00:21:43,480 eats before the other gods eat yeah the 470 00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:46,509 descriptions the language that's used to 471 00:21:52,169 --> 00:21:50,049 describe this figure is so exalted and 472 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:52,179 you know that prayer is made to this God 473 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:53,769 it's like I will worship you above all 474 00:21:56,610 --> 00:21:56,350 of the gods you you're my only God you 475 00:21:58,830 --> 00:21:56,620 know 476 00:22:02,010 --> 00:21:58,840 all this kind of thing it's like this is 477 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:02,020 history's first recorded monotheism in 478 00:22:09,210 --> 00:22:06,400 some way and it's been erased like it's 479 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:09,220 literally been erased I think that it's 480 00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:12,010 very possible that all these things 481 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,360 we're seeing in the Middle East where 482 00:22:18,180 --> 00:22:15,280 they're destroying our archaeological 483 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:18,190 sites with the destroying museums and 484 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:20,050 things like that might have something to 485 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,520 do with covering up this history yeah I 486 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:27,760 mean that's an extraordinary claim I 487 00:22:32,190 --> 00:22:30,970 think and I do that I the first to admit 488 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:32,200 that I do not have the extraordinary 489 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:36,490 evidence to back that up but I'm just 490 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:39,580 saying that when you go by the few 491 00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:41,710 scraps of excellent material that we 492 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:44,620 have on this figure it's like wait a 493 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,809 second this is the kind of stuff that I 494 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,120 mean literally the language that you 495 00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:51,760 would read like early Christians writing 496 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:53,380 about Jesus is written about this figure 497 00:23:01,470 --> 00:22:56,050 and you're just like what is going on 498 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:01,480 here and nobody else has written about 499 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:05,260 this so this is why this will probably 500 00:23:12,510 --> 00:23:09,670 be in a book anyway but you know it's 501 00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:12,520 just it's fascinating to me that this 502 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,480 whole idea seems to be resonating with 503 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:18,880 people in an interesting way bit that 504 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:21,550 you have the Lucifer TV series but you 505 00:23:27,419 --> 00:23:24,630 also have this whole corpus of 506 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:27,429 Luciferian conspiracy theory which you 507 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:31,030 know I've discovered over the years is 508 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:33,910 really based on absolutely nothing this 509 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:38,610 is actually no evidence there's no 510 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:43,140 literature there's no traces of actual 511 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:45,490 Luciferian groups or shrines or temples 512 00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:50,770 or liturgy I mean this absolutely you 513 00:23:58,110 --> 00:23:54,520 will see that term used again and again 514 00:24:02,460 --> 00:23:58,120 and again and again you're particularly 515 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:02,470 in the conspiracy realm and everyone 516 00:24:08,010 --> 00:24:05,020 assumes that it has some historical 517 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:08,020 basis but the fact of it is is that it 518 00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:09,290 has absolutely 519 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:12,350 historical basis at all I'm not kidding 520 00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:15,050 and you know I mean there is Satanism 521 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:17,720 Satanism is a very real thing it has a 522 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:21,410 history it has a tradition it goes back 523 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:26,050 a long way but there is nothing to 524 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:31,790 justify any of that and you know people 525 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:32,990 are going to be shocked to hear that 526 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:34,250 they're going to think that can't be 527 00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:34,910 true 528 00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:38,840 think that there's no possibility that 529 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:41,600 that what I'm saying is true but it is 530 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:43,930 true and they'll say oh what about 531 00:24:50,890 --> 00:24:48,290 Albert Pike and what about Madame 532 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:50,900 Blavatsky and what about Alice Bailey 533 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,190 and things like that I mean yeah and 534 00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:53,840 I'll say you know yeah what about them I 535 00:24:59,500 --> 00:24:58,040 mean so what I mean they you know it two 536 00:25:02,010 --> 00:24:59,510 of them with the ostriches one this is a 537 00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:02,020 freemason you know what I mean the 538 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:05,780 Luciferian quotes attributed to to Pike 539 00:25:12,730 --> 00:25:09,830 or approving hoaxes by a French satirist 540 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:12,740 named Leo Taxil and it's interesting 541 00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:14,330 it's like you know I'm not sitting here 542 00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:16,580 trying to advocate quote-unquote 543 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:18,980 luciferianism a because I don't believe 544 00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:21,530 that it actually exists but I'm just 545 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:26,980 saying that this whole entire sphere of 546 00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:29,990 conspiracy thinking has no historical 547 00:25:36,580 --> 00:25:33,350 basis at all and most people don't even 548 00:25:42,370 --> 00:25:36,590 understand that yeah but there is this 549 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:42,380 other idea that you see emerge that has 550 00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:44,420 to do with figures like Prometheus that 551 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:45,680 has to do with three games like the 552 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:48,230 Watchers that has a lot to do with 553 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:50,540 technology yeah and it has a lot to do 554 00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:52,130 with like forbidden technology the 555 00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:54,440 ticking technology's forbidden and the 556 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:56,300 reason why technology has been forbidden 557 00:26:01,660 --> 00:25:59,170 and why we see technology's forbidden 558 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:01,670 you know in religious texts and whatnot 559 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:06,650 is that it was regarded as a existential 560 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:09,710 threat to church and state essential 561 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:11,840 because if it was I mean as we've seen 562 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:14,210 it was actually an existential threat to 563 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:17,750 the monarchies of Europe no into the 564 00:26:23,299 --> 00:26:20,690 Catholic Church mmm-hmm a lot of their 565 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:23,309 undoing was the result 566 00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:27,120 of technological advancement it was and 567 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:28,980 this is one of my big takeaways from 568 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:31,860 this part of the Lucifer technology 569 00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:33,330 series is we do see a lot of the same 570 00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,429 themes in ancient texts some of the same 571 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,679 story patterns around the idea of a 572 00:26:41,869 --> 00:26:39,840 revolt against quote-unquote God or 573 00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:41,879 whatever the real authority was their 574 00:26:45,259 --> 00:26:43,559 day and there are a lot of opinions on 575 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:45,269 how to interpret this who's good and 576 00:26:49,159 --> 00:26:46,710 who's really bad but I like this line 577 00:26:51,379 --> 00:26:49,169 where you say this war in heaven was 578 00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:51,389 rebellion against the first recorded 579 00:26:55,249 --> 00:26:53,460 attempt to create a new world order so 580 00:26:57,859 --> 00:26:55,259 to speak an insurrection that was 581 00:27:00,139 --> 00:26:57,869 ultimately successful despite the spin 582 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:00,149 texts like the Book of Enoch or Paradise 583 00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:01,769 Lost might put on it and I think that 584 00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:03,419 makes a lot of sense it seems like the 585 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,299 rebels have been demonized no pun 586 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:08,240 intended since the beginning of time 587 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:12,470 well understand see here's the thing 588 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:17,340 people in previous centuries did not 589 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:20,070 think the way we thought they thought 590 00:27:28,999 --> 00:27:25,039 the church and state were reflections of 591 00:27:31,159 --> 00:27:29,009 heavenly power and if you go against the 592 00:27:36,529 --> 00:27:31,169 power of the church in the state you are 593 00:27:39,499 --> 00:27:36,539 rebelling against God yeah right 594 00:27:43,009 --> 00:27:39,509 that was their mindset that's the way I 595 00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:43,019 mean okay so listen when the Orthodox 596 00:27:48,499 --> 00:27:46,230 Church schism away from the Catholic 597 00:27:52,399 --> 00:27:48,509 Church they would demonize the Satanists 598 00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:52,409 when the Protestants schism away from 599 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:55,080 the Catholics they were regarded as 600 00:27:58,759 --> 00:27:55,830 Satanists 601 00:28:03,789 --> 00:27:58,769 John Calvin a well-known Protestant 602 00:28:05,899 --> 00:28:03,799 leader dealt with any dissent or 603 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:05,909 disagreement with his policies by 604 00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:10,320 labeling his enemies as Satanists you 605 00:28:17,419 --> 00:28:12,869 know we saw this with the witch hunts we 606 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:17,429 saw this you know in Salem because once 607 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:21,600 upon a time Humanity believed that 608 00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,110 church and state were reflections of 609 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:28,799 heaven but on earth as it is in heaven 610 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:32,290 that there was the Divine Right of Kings 611 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:35,890 the Kings were ordained by God you know 612 00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:39,280 that the church was literally the Vicar 613 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,580 of Christ that they were literally the 614 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:44,080 representations of the heavenly kingdom 615 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:49,600 on earth so if you question that or you 616 00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:53,470 usurp that or you threaten that you are 617 00:29:00,540 --> 00:28:57,640 by definition satanic you are a 618 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:00,550 representation of the devil do you 619 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:02,590 understand what I'm saying right it's a 620 00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:04,180 nice trick they had played on everybody 621 00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:07,080 so this is how this all filters down 622 00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:09,640 this is what I did is I just worked my 623 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:12,400 way back and a lot of the work that I 624 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:14,170 put on the blog was just sort of like 625 00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:16,750 the notes I I have a lot more work that 626 00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:19,720 I've been doing outside of the blog so 627 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:23,020 again this is gonna be a book but this 628 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:26,020 is how we trace it back okay so we're 629 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:27,310 going to look at you know this whole 630 00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:31,510 idea of Lucifer as the Light Bearer now 631 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,660 that comes from prometheus now what did 632 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:37,120 Prometheus do Prometheus rebelled 633 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:40,180 against Zeus Zeus the sky god Zeus you 634 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:43,450 know the representation of the heavenly 635 00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:47,380 order but Prometheus was also credited 636 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:49,660 with creating human beings with we 637 00:29:53,970 --> 00:29:51,970 teaching them the arts of civilization I 638 00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:53,980 mean he's one of these sort of ancient 639 00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:56,740 aliens kind of Stephanie than that yeah 640 00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:02,080 his whole history is all about as the 641 00:30:08,730 --> 00:30:05,380 patron of humanity but this is the 642 00:30:11,550 --> 00:30:08,740 interesting thing is that I traced his 643 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:11,560 story back that there's a school of 644 00:30:17,790 --> 00:30:15,250 thinking that argues quite compellingly 645 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:17,800 that his origin is pre Greek and that a 646 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:20,470 lot of figures that we see as Greek are 647 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:23,500 actually pre Greek and when I believe 648 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:26,650 quite strongly and I'm very and I will 649 00:30:35,540 --> 00:30:29,200 literally go to the math - this is that 650 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:35,550 Prometheus is a deified Sumerian king 651 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:39,820 okay and a Sumerian king who is deposed 652 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,270 by a figure called Sargon the great 653 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:45,760 so what you had is that you had you know 654 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,370 the kingdom Sumer and this is really 655 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:50,320 interesting because this is ties you 656 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:53,050 know you can get as weird as you really 657 00:30:57,419 --> 00:30:55,330 want to be this is the Anunnaki this is 658 00:31:00,419 --> 00:30:57,429 all that kind of stuff right right 659 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:00,429 all right so Sumer was Sumer had a 660 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:01,809 problem is that it was it was a 661 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:04,210 collection of city-states and they were 662 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:05,470 constantly fighting with each other 663 00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:07,390 because you know they only had so much 664 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:09,480 water they only had so much arable land 665 00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:12,580 they had a lot of problems so they were 666 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:14,580 constantly battling with each other and 667 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:18,070 a king came along a Sumerian king came 668 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:21,550 along and said listen we have to all 669 00:31:28,169 --> 00:31:25,170 create a confederation here because 670 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:28,179 we're very vulnerable which turned out 671 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:29,710 to be true we're very vulnerable to 672 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:34,690 attack from outside and what he did is 673 00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:37,030 that he created basically a unified 674 00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:41,640 Sumer and what happened is that when his 675 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:44,500 allies was an Akkadian and Acadians were 676 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:47,500 sort of like this parallel civilization 677 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:50,650 to the north and their leader Sargon 678 00:31:58,790 --> 00:31:55,090 betrayed the Sumerian king and conquered 679 00:32:01,860 --> 00:31:58,800 his kingdom which was unified Sumer and 680 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:01,870 actually led him to the you know the 681 00:32:07,650 --> 00:32:04,809 gate of the gods in Chains just you know 682 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:07,660 exactly the way that Prometheus was so 683 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:09,970 they're all these if you if you read the 684 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:11,770 stories if you parallel the stories 685 00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:14,470 together you see all these very 686 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:17,740 interesting connections between this 687 00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:19,750 character whose name was lugol's the 688 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:23,260 Ghazi and Prometheus and if you really 689 00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:25,210 want to get get down to it you start to 690 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:27,340 see that maybe Sargon the great was the 691 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:29,770 serpent in the Garden of Eden 692 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:31,330 and there are very interesting reasons 693 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:34,809 for that so I mean is all these very 694 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:37,809 interesting because don't forget this is 695 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:43,030 the first organized civilization in that 696 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:45,190 part of the world that have extensive 697 00:32:49,049 --> 00:32:47,260 libraries I mean you had people from 698 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:49,059 other parts of the world coming to 699 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:52,450 Babylon to study because they did they 700 00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:53,470 were the people who have the library 701 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,020 right you didn't have libraries in Rome 702 00:33:02,740 --> 00:32:56,330 you 703 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:02,750 because this was the center of 704 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,510 civilization so this is why so many of 705 00:33:09,610 --> 00:33:07,279 the stories you know Sargon becomes 706 00:33:13,779 --> 00:33:09,620 Moses you know that that so many of the 707 00:33:15,549 --> 00:33:13,789 stories that we think are part of Moses 708 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:15,559 his biography are actually part of saw 709 00:33:19,389 --> 00:33:17,570 guards but biography but but the long 710 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:19,399 short of this is that Sargon wanted to 711 00:33:24,850 --> 00:33:22,010 create a new world order he wanted to 712 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:24,860 create a kingdom that spread he said you 713 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:26,630 know from the Persian Gulf to the 714 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:29,450 Mediterranean Sea he wanted to conquer 715 00:33:36,879 --> 00:33:32,090 the entire known world 716 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:36,889 and what I believe very strongly happen 717 00:33:43,419 --> 00:33:39,230 is that the Sumerians the Sumerians who 718 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:43,429 were deposed by this invasion went north 719 00:33:51,549 --> 00:33:48,169 they went north to the gold mines in the 720 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:51,559 Georgian mountains which had been around 721 00:33:57,820 --> 00:33:55,370 for at least 6,000 years and that's this 722 00:33:59,529 --> 00:33:57,830 is how they financed their you know 723 00:34:01,090 --> 00:33:59,539 their insurrection against Sargon 724 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:01,100 because their insurrection is against 725 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:04,130 Sargon I think Sargon had two or three 726 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:07,130 heirs and then the Sumerians took power 727 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:10,760 again and that was called the Sumerian 728 00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:14,960 Renaissance so I think all this was told 729 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:17,800 and retold and all this kind of thing 730 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:21,200 over the years and you know the long and 731 00:34:25,329 --> 00:34:22,820 short of this is that this is where 732 00:34:27,730 --> 00:34:25,339 these stories became Prometheus and 733 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:27,740 later on prometheus is told and retold 734 00:34:32,050 --> 00:34:30,169 that he becomes Lucifer do you 735 00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:32,060 understand what I'm saying but it all 736 00:34:40,690 --> 00:34:37,550 ties back to this rebellion against 737 00:34:42,909 --> 00:34:40,700 Sargon the great now the reason why I 738 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:42,919 feel so strongly about this is that 739 00:34:47,980 --> 00:34:46,310 Sargon's daughter was a poet and what 740 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:47,990 she did is that she wrote all these 741 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:50,480 poems in the voice of the goddess and 742 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:53,770 Nana and anon is sort of the she's the 743 00:34:59,470 --> 00:34:56,810 equivalent of goddesses like Ishtar and 744 00:35:02,470 --> 00:34:59,480 Aphrodite and everything I got but she 745 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:02,480 is saying you rebels up there in the 746 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:05,630 mountains of northern Iraq you are going 747 00:35:10,329 --> 00:35:08,180 against God you are rebelling against 748 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:10,339 God you are not just rebelling against 749 00:35:17,259 --> 00:35:13,130 are gone - usurper the akkadian who's 750 00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:17,269 who's overtaking Sumeria you are going 751 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:19,640 against the wishes of the gods the gods 752 00:35:25,299 --> 00:35:21,650 hate you the gods will strike you down 753 00:35:27,819 --> 00:35:25,309 the gods you know are against you do you 754 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:27,829 see what I'm getting at here Lucifer 755 00:35:31,209 --> 00:35:29,450 could almost be equated to a figure that 756 00:35:33,969 --> 00:35:31,219 uses technology to subvert the 757 00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:33,979 established power center that's exactly 758 00:35:38,049 --> 00:35:36,200 what it is because because what it 759 00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:38,059 what's going on is that these stories 760 00:35:43,779 --> 00:35:41,420 get told and retold and the rebellious 761 00:35:46,029 --> 00:35:43,789 Sumerian Kings become the Watchers how 762 00:35:49,299 --> 00:35:46,039 do we know this because what is Summa 763 00:35:52,209 --> 00:35:49,309 mean it means land of the Watchers you 764 00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:52,219 see what I'm saying I very strongly 765 00:35:58,930 --> 00:35:54,529 believe that the Titans of a Greek 766 00:36:01,329 --> 00:35:58,940 mythology were also these Sumerian Kings 767 00:36:04,809 --> 00:36:01,339 why do I believe that because the 768 00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:04,819 Sumerian Kings were called lugol's okay 769 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:07,759 what does logo mean it means giant it 770 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:10,910 means Titan it's the same word 771 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:12,710 you know what I'm saying so this 772 00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,200 connections are really not very hard to 773 00:36:20,459 --> 00:36:17,839 find so the point I'm trying to make 774 00:36:23,410 --> 00:36:20,469 here and this might sound like complete 775 00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:23,420 you know Argyll Bartle to most people 776 00:36:30,930 --> 00:36:28,190 but this whole idea that has been passed 777 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:30,940 down you know with the Midwife being 778 00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:35,359 Christian fundamentalism which is the 779 00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:39,140 source of so much modern conspiracy that 780 00:36:45,099 --> 00:36:40,700 more than most people are willing to 781 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,109 admit this whole idea of this whole you 782 00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:47,599 know this whole Luciferian all this kind 783 00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:51,440 of thing is in fact the exact opposite 784 00:36:57,099 --> 00:36:54,440 of what it originally means through 785 00:36:59,079 --> 00:36:57,109 figures like Prometheus you know and 786 00:37:00,729 --> 00:36:59,089 this is not conjecture here I mean all 787 00:37:03,099 --> 00:37:00,739 you have to do is read the Promethean 788 00:37:06,759 --> 00:37:03,109 myth I mean Prometheus is rebelling 789 00:37:10,029 --> 00:37:06,769 against Zeus is heavenly rule he's doing 790 00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:10,039 so on behalf of humanity the embassy 791 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:11,539 what I'm saying he's rebelling against 792 00:37:16,539 --> 00:37:14,450 the God to our tyrants on behalf of 793 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:16,549 humanity so I'm not just making things 794 00:37:22,329 --> 00:37:19,430 up out of thin air here I'm just saying 795 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:22,339 that there's a much deeper origin to all 796 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:23,460 this 797 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:26,010 yeah I mean I see it it makes sense when 798 00:37:30,529 --> 00:37:27,960 you lay it all out like that how can we 799 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:30,539 take that template or these connections 800 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:32,910 between Lucifer and technology and kind 801 00:37:36,859 --> 00:37:35,250 of bring them out of the ancient 802 00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:36,869 scriptures and into like the last 803 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:39,660 hundred years well this is where things 804 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:41,910 get weird I mean this you know I mean 805 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:43,529 how weird you want to get yeah 806 00:37:47,539 --> 00:37:46,140 let's wrap it up huh how weird you want 807 00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:47,549 to get I mean because here's the thing 808 00:37:52,279 --> 00:37:50,369 it's like the figure who is called 809 00:37:54,319 --> 00:37:52,289 Lucifer in the Bible is actually 810 00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:54,329 Nebuchadnezzar okay 811 00:37:59,720 --> 00:37:56,760 and Nebuchadnezzar was the Babylonian 812 00:38:02,329 --> 00:37:59,730 king who conquered Israel and took the 813 00:38:06,019 --> 00:38:02,339 Jews or some of the Jews he took like 814 00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:06,029 all the scribes and the doctors you know 815 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:08,220 he took all the sign it was like you 816 00:38:14,029 --> 00:38:11,010 know it was almost like a kind of brain 817 00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:14,039 drain let's say right he took all the 818 00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:16,619 the people that you want the Operation 819 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:18,569 Paperclip of its day he didn't take the 820 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:21,990 farm or is he didn't take the Shepherds 821 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:26,460 he took people like Daniel so then you 822 00:38:30,289 --> 00:38:28,470 have this whole thing with the fiery 823 00:38:32,539 --> 00:38:30,299 furnace in the Book of Daniel 824 00:38:34,549 --> 00:38:32,549 like what the hell of that all about I 825 00:38:36,859 --> 00:38:34,559 mean that's a very strange story 826 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:36,869 what's the mythological you know if 827 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:38,460 you're going to get all joseph campbell 828 00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:41,359 about that like what what psychological 829 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:43,740 impulse does the [\h__\h] of the fiery 830 00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:45,960 furnace and then this other figure shows 831 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,150 up and everything like that like what 832 00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,160 psychological impulse does that serve 833 00:38:54,650 --> 00:38:52,079 you know I mean it's like this is where 834 00:38:57,859 --> 00:38:54,660 I really break with the unions now 835 00:39:00,349 --> 00:38:57,869 you had this figure of Lucifer who is in 836 00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:00,359 the Bible in the Book of Isaiah is 837 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:03,660 actually Nebuchadnezzar okay now the 838 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:05,270 interesting thing about this is that 839 00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:08,270 where else did we hear about 840 00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:10,049 Nebuchadnezzar we heard about 841 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:11,849 Nebuchadnezzar during the Iraq war 842 00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:15,390 because Saddam Hussein believed himself 843 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:18,440 to be the reincarnation 844 00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:19,760 [Music] 845 00:39:28,650 --> 00:39:24,200 Nebuchadnezzar mm-hmm okay and what 846 00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:28,660 happened as soon as troops pulled into 847 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:31,180 Iraq 848 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:38,440 National Museum why well gee I don't 849 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:40,450 know maybe it's the fact that all the 850 00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:43,390 Sumerian tablets went missing and that 851 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:45,309 only a third of them have been recovered 852 00:39:52,319 --> 00:39:49,420 you know 13 years later what's that 853 00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:52,329 about like why do you do that right 854 00:39:56,579 --> 00:39:54,849 think about that for a minute you know 855 00:39:58,349 --> 00:39:56,589 we've heard that story so many times 856 00:40:01,520 --> 00:39:58,359 that we take it for granted and it just 857 00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:01,530 becomes part of the high weirdness 858 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:05,860 conspiracy wallpaper No 859 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:09,490 stop stop just a minute you're invading 860 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,010 a country you know with all this oil 861 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:14,800 wealth and all the rest of it I'm going 862 00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:16,360 to let you in on a little secret 863 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:17,860 we really haven't gotten that much oil 864 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:22,450 out of Iraq Iraq its military pose no 865 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:25,570 threat to Israel or to anybody else its 866 00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:28,510 military was a paper tiger they knew 867 00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:30,100 they had no weapons of mass destruction 868 00:40:37,830 --> 00:40:33,540 we knew that that whole campaign was 869 00:40:40,110 --> 00:40:37,840 fiction was Hollywood right so what 870 00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:40,120 actually happened what actually happened 871 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:42,460 is that the first thing they do is they 872 00:40:49,410 --> 00:40:46,210 make a beeline to the museum and what's 873 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:49,420 this alleged terrorist group Isis doing 874 00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:53,290 you know it's like they - eluding all 875 00:40:59,790 --> 00:40:57,190 these artifacts what is so important 876 00:41:01,530 --> 00:40:59,800 about these artifacts right you know 877 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:01,540 what I mean here's the problem 878 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:03,670 I'm going to tell you a problem and I 879 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:05,050 just want to get back to the election 880 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:06,910 about this because in my look my latest 881 00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:10,750 post I talked about maybe Hillary was 882 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:13,270 targeted maybe John Podesta was targeted 883 00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:15,190 and maybe you had something to do with 884 00:41:19,530 --> 00:41:17,800 the fact that back in March Hillary said 885 00:41:21,810 --> 00:41:19,540 oh we're going to open up the secrets of 886 00:41:24,570 --> 00:41:21,820 area 51 we're going to you know finally 887 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:24,580 get to the bottom of what these UFOs are 888 00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:27,250 all about and you think oh you know 889 00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:28,900 everybody's eyes were all out come on 890 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:31,720 you know and then people like Richard 891 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:33,010 Dolan will say well she's going after 892 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:36,010 the UFO it's like what UFO ho yes 893 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:39,340 seriously the UFO ho all right you know 894 00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:42,250 John Podesta SH and he's keeping on this 895 00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:44,680 uh this whole hobby horse for a long 896 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:48,060 time now it has nothing to do with 897 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:50,170 reptilians it has nothing to do with 898 00:41:56,580 --> 00:41:53,680 Zeta Reticuli it has to do with the 899 00:41:59,340 --> 00:41:56,590 black budget world it has to do with 900 00:42:02,040 --> 00:41:59,350 secret aircraft it has to do with the 901 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:02,050 secret space program it has to do with 902 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:05,850 when these politicians get lippy and 903 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:09,970 step outside their little square they 904 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:12,610 get spanked they get spanked and it's 905 00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:17,200 been happening since JFK because ten 906 00:42:21,069 --> 00:42:18,920 days before JFK 907 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:21,079 was assassinated he wrote a memo saying 908 00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:24,770 I want you know whatever secrets we have 909 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:30,020 about UFO technology released and shared 910 00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:32,690 with the Russians it's like oh yeah 911 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:35,150 that's gonna happen you know what I'm 912 00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:35,569 saying 913 00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:37,460 and it's like every time one of these 914 00:42:45,579 --> 00:42:41,869 politicians messes with this issue they 915 00:42:47,549 --> 00:42:45,589 run into a wall of misfortune mm-hmm 916 00:42:50,530 --> 00:42:47,559 until there's more about that pattern 917 00:42:52,299 --> 00:42:50,540 okay about this pattern do you mean 918 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:52,309 right I mean cuz there's a lot more than 919 00:42:56,319 --> 00:42:54,770 just JFK and now Clinton there's other 920 00:43:00,579 --> 00:42:56,329 people who have run into the same 921 00:43:02,779 --> 00:43:00,589 problem right well here's how it goes 922 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,789 so JFK 923 00:43:07,819 --> 00:43:05,359 was messing around with this stuff you 924 00:43:11,299 --> 00:43:07,829 know and then we had people like Dorothy 925 00:43:13,279 --> 00:43:11,309 Kilgallen who ended up dead like so many 926 00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:13,289 other people involved with the day of 927 00:43:18,919 --> 00:43:15,390 Kay situation and she was not only 928 00:43:20,529 --> 00:43:18,929 looking into the JFK assassination she 929 00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:20,539 was also looking into the UFO situation 930 00:43:27,169 --> 00:43:24,900 and she winds up dead Gerald Ford was 931 00:43:30,979 --> 00:43:27,179 Speaker of the House in the late 1960s 932 00:43:33,769 --> 00:43:30,989 and he got a lot of complaints about the 933 00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:33,779 way the Air Force had treated a series 934 00:43:39,229 --> 00:43:35,849 of UFO flaps in his home state of 935 00:43:42,859 --> 00:43:39,239 Michigan and ordered congressional 936 00:43:46,219 --> 00:43:42,869 hearings on the subject which eventually 937 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:46,229 led to the the Condon committee in the 938 00:43:50,329 --> 00:43:48,089 University of Colorado which you know 939 00:43:53,539 --> 00:43:50,339 turned out to be a total whitewash but 940 00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:53,549 he made the effort and I mean the 941 00:44:00,380 --> 00:43:56,519 timeline is little shaky but I've been 942 00:44:03,709 --> 00:44:00,390 told that the big UFO document dump that 943 00:44:07,759 --> 00:44:03,719 we saw in the 70s was actually begun 944 00:44:09,919 --> 00:44:07,769 under his administration so you know all 945 00:44:13,099 --> 00:44:09,929 those documents that that really created 946 00:44:16,099 --> 00:44:13,109 UFO conspiracy I mean the whole UFO 947 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:16,109 conspiracy world that was so prevalent 948 00:44:22,759 --> 00:44:19,650 in the 70s 80s and 90s and the doors 949 00:44:24,769 --> 00:44:22,769 really slammed shut after 9/11 came 950 00:44:25,909 --> 00:44:24,779 about because of all these documents 951 00:44:29,449 --> 00:44:25,919 that were released because of the 952 00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:29,459 Freedom of Information Act now again 953 00:44:33,949 --> 00:44:31,859 everyone credits Carter with that but 954 00:44:37,219 --> 00:44:33,959 I've been told by a prominent UFO 955 00:44:39,649 --> 00:44:37,229 skeptic who's also a scholar of the 956 00:44:40,669 --> 00:44:39,659 phenomenon that it was actually Ford who 957 00:44:42,709 --> 00:44:40,679 was involved list 958 00:44:45,289 --> 00:44:42,719 now the interesting thing about Ford is 959 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:45,299 that Ford had two assassination attempts 960 00:44:50,359 --> 00:44:47,729 one of which was by a Manson family 961 00:44:54,259 --> 00:44:50,369 member I mean what are the odds of that 962 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,269 and the other one was by a woman who was 963 00:44:59,059 --> 00:44:57,119 obsessed with the sibian Eze Liberation 964 00:45:04,069 --> 00:44:59,069 Army which takes us back to Project 965 00:45:06,409 --> 00:45:04,079 often MK often yes and arguably as does 966 00:45:08,089 --> 00:45:06,419 you know the Manson Family I mean I 967 00:45:11,409 --> 00:45:08,099 would argue that the Manson Family is 968 00:45:13,909 --> 00:45:11,419 more an MK often project than an MKULTRA 969 00:45:14,929 --> 00:45:13,919 project and talk to us about the 970 00:45:16,539 --> 00:45:14,939 difference there because I don't think a 971 00:45:18,609 --> 00:45:16,549 lot of listeners will have heard of them 972 00:45:20,229 --> 00:45:18,619 often yet well I are willing just a 973 00:45:21,459 --> 00:45:20,239 moment but let me just you know continue 974 00:45:24,459 --> 00:45:21,469 this timeline that you had asked about 975 00:45:28,359 --> 00:45:24,469 so so Gerald Ford you know he does this 976 00:45:30,459 --> 00:45:28,369 and boom two assassination attempts 977 00:45:32,739 --> 00:45:30,469 Jimmy card is very outspoken on the 978 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:32,749 topic and then he gets hit with the 979 00:45:38,919 --> 00:45:37,249 whole Iran hostages issue and it turns 980 00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:38,929 out there was a lot of chicane eree with 981 00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:41,630 intelligence services making sure that 982 00:45:47,499 --> 00:45:44,150 the hostages weren't released before the 983 00:45:50,499 --> 00:45:47,509 election Reagan's a little iffy but you 984 00:45:53,019 --> 00:45:50,509 know Clinton is really activist on this 985 00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:53,029 issue orders an investigation of the 986 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:54,529 Roswell incident doesn't like the 987 00:46:00,969 --> 00:45:57,170 results or there's another one and then 988 00:46:03,069 --> 00:46:00,979 he's impeached is a congressman from New 989 00:46:06,339 --> 00:46:03,079 Mexico who also gets involved in this 990 00:46:08,499 --> 00:46:06,349 dies of cancer shortly after he orders 991 00:46:13,269 --> 00:46:08,509 an investigation of the financial 992 00:46:15,370 --> 00:46:13,279 records of Roswell at age 51 so now we 993 00:46:17,499 --> 00:46:15,380 have Hillary who was very outspoken 994 00:46:20,829 --> 00:46:17,509 about this issue in the campaign trail 995 00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:20,839 much to the mocking of the press and 996 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:23,689 whatnot but I think that she knew what 997 00:46:26,979 --> 00:46:25,369 she was really talking about and I think 998 00:46:29,410 --> 00:46:26,989 the Destiny what he was really talking 999 00:46:32,349 --> 00:46:29,420 about they were talking about sticking 1000 00:46:36,549 --> 00:46:32,359 their nose in the black-budget world and 1001 00:46:39,009 --> 00:46:36,559 they got they got spanked do like badly 1002 00:46:41,859 --> 00:46:39,019 I mean they lost the election first of 1003 00:46:44,349 --> 00:46:41,869 all and you know they may be more to 1004 00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:44,359 come you know certainly Podesta's been 1005 00:46:48,549 --> 00:46:46,670 humiliated I mean when the the 1006 00:46:50,579 --> 00:46:48,559 Washington Post has to say no John 1007 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:50,589 Podesta doesn't drink blood and urine 1008 00:46:55,989 --> 00:46:53,209 with his dinner or something in a 1009 00:46:57,249 --> 00:46:55,999 headline you know that it's bad yeah you 1010 00:46:59,229 --> 00:46:57,259 know what I'm saying you know that 1011 00:47:03,669 --> 00:46:59,239 things are much much worse behind the 1012 00:47:04,959 --> 00:47:03,679 scenes so people hear UFOs and they've 1013 00:47:08,279 --> 00:47:04,969 been so conditioned by the 1014 00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:08,289 disinformation program to think 1015 00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:11,239 silliness but they should really be 1016 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:12,940 thinking 1017 00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:16,329 secret aircraft black budgets black ops 1018 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:20,020 things like that and they don't and a 1019 00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:21,849 lot of people in the conspiracy world 1020 00:47:26,609 --> 00:47:24,369 think they're going to appear more 1021 00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:26,619 serious if they make fun of UFOs and 1022 00:47:32,339 --> 00:47:29,470 stuff but they don't realize how 1023 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:32,349 important the subject really is and how 1024 00:47:39,210 --> 00:47:36,010 many of the like say disinfo techniques 1025 00:47:42,569 --> 00:47:39,220 that are used across the board now were 1026 00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:42,579 first perfected on the UFO community I 1027 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:45,430 mean it's it's a it's a whole the whole 1028 00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:48,010 thing in a nutshell you think that these 1029 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:49,960 cover stories where we're told about 1030 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:52,210 aliens from Zeta Reticuli might really 1031 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,220 be covering up something that's more 1032 00:47:59,130 --> 00:47:57,520 steeped in the occult right I think it's 1033 00:48:02,160 --> 00:47:59,140 all of the above to be honest with you 1034 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:02,170 I'm like in a both/and person I think I 1035 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:04,089 mean I don't believe personally I don't 1036 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:07,180 believe in extra solar aliens I don't 1037 00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:10,329 believe that we're dealing with aliens 1038 00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:12,220 coming from Zeta Reticuli I just don't 1039 00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,260 believe it you know I know that you know 1040 00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:16,240 they're saying oh well now the emdrive 1041 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:19,800 is possible and things like that but I 1042 00:48:24,329 --> 00:48:22,569 think that and I've been saying this for 1043 00:48:27,319 --> 00:48:24,339 several years now is that I think what 1044 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:27,329 we call aliens are what I call our 1045 00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:30,880 elusive companions and it's not just me 1046 00:48:33,809 --> 00:48:32,140 that segment I mean this is something 1047 00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:33,819 that Charles Ford set a hundred years 1048 00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:34,089 ago 1049 00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:36,940 I mean I'm even kind of iffy on the 1050 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:41,310 whole hyper dimensional way of thinking 1051 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,170 because I think those effects could just 1052 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:47,280 as easily be explained by exotic 1053 00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:51,760 cloaking technology so I think it's a 1054 00:48:57,630 --> 00:48:54,760 very complex I think a lot of it is just 1055 00:49:01,290 --> 00:48:57,640 hokum and nonsense you know maybe even 1056 00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:01,300 most of it but the stuff that isn't is a 1057 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,390 very complex tapestry of things that 1058 00:49:08,270 --> 00:49:06,400 will keep people up at night if they 1059 00:49:11,010 --> 00:49:08,280 really think about it seriously 1060 00:49:12,930 --> 00:49:11,020 no I mean that I mean that with all you 1061 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:12,940 know with all seriousness of course I 1062 00:49:18,290 --> 00:49:15,730 mean my family and I had like an orb 1063 00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:18,300 sighting last year we were coming up the 1064 00:49:23,069 --> 00:49:21,460 highway into New Hampshire we just 1065 00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:23,079 crossed the border and we saw these two 1066 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:26,320 orange orbs basically harassing a 1067 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:28,000 private plane that just taken off in the 1068 00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:30,130 airport and this thing was I don't know 1069 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:32,620 maybe a thousand feet over our head so 1070 00:49:37,710 --> 00:49:35,230 we got a really good look at this and we 1071 00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:37,720 were just shocked and we saw these 1072 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:39,569 things and we like 1073 00:49:44,689 --> 00:49:42,209 I mean personally I was like that's not 1074 00:49:46,489 --> 00:49:44,699 aircraft that's not technology that's I 1075 00:49:48,949 --> 00:49:46,499 don't know what the hell that is but 1076 00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,959 these things have been seen you know 1077 00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:51,599 since the Middle Ages elusive companions 1078 00:49:56,689 --> 00:49:54,660 yeah so I mean God knows what we're 1079 00:50:00,620 --> 00:49:56,699 talking about it's it's just it's crazy 1080 00:50:03,579 --> 00:50:00,630 but a lot of it is black ops and bi 1081 00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:03,589 projects and I think that that's 1082 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:06,180 probably the stuff that that gets a lot 1083 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:10,079 of UFO investigators killed right but 1084 00:50:13,549 --> 00:50:11,279 and that's where we get into the tie-in 1085 00:50:15,799 --> 00:50:13,559 to magic because at the heart of the 1086 00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:15,809 black projects we see all this kind of 1087 00:50:21,259 --> 00:50:18,420 symbolism and the strange naming from 1088 00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:21,269 ancient sources yeah and yeah yeah the 1089 00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:23,369 lines of demarcation are very blurry 1090 00:50:27,309 --> 00:50:25,079 it's the other thing that I sort of just 1091 00:50:29,479 --> 00:50:27,319 discovered with the de Lucifer's 1092 00:50:30,799 --> 00:50:29,489 technology series and yeah that's one of 1093 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:30,809 things I discovered and I was looking to 1094 00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:32,609 Roswell you know Roswell has always sort 1095 00:50:37,489 --> 00:50:34,859 of bothered me because the standard UFO 1096 00:50:40,789 --> 00:50:37,499 narrative doesn't really work for me 1097 00:50:43,219 --> 00:50:40,799 and the debunker explanations don't 1098 00:50:45,140 --> 00:50:43,229 really work for me but here's the thing 1099 00:50:47,509 --> 00:50:45,150 and I don't think a lot of people 1100 00:50:51,469 --> 00:50:47,519 understand this that don't read ancient 1101 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:51,479 mythology is that there's a very long 1102 00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:55,440 and illustrious tradition of like things 1103 00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:58,440 crashing to earth and strange creatures 1104 00:51:04,729 --> 00:51:01,440 getting out of them and interacting with 1105 00:51:07,029 --> 00:51:04,739 people and giving them technology this 1106 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:07,039 isn't just like ancient aliens wild 1107 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:09,209 misinterpretations of ancient texts I 1108 00:51:17,689 --> 00:51:11,849 mean you know the thing that really ties 1109 00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:17,699 into Roswell is the myth of Cadmus yes 1110 00:51:26,019 --> 00:51:21,329 now why is Cadmus important you know 1111 00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:26,029 Cadmus was a Phoenician okay and the 1112 00:51:32,539 --> 00:51:29,819 plane to st. Agustin where the alleged 1113 00:51:34,009 --> 00:51:32,549 crash actually took place and again I 1114 00:51:36,739 --> 00:51:34,019 don't believe it was actually a crash I 1115 00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:36,749 think it was a ritual I think this was 1116 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:42,089 all ritual are exactly parallel with 1117 00:51:48,439 --> 00:51:45,569 Baalbek which was in ancient Phoenicia 1118 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:48,449 again the see what I'm saying right 34th 1119 00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:51,690 parallel right yeah so there's like okay 1120 00:51:55,550 --> 00:51:52,980 well why is that 1121 00:51:58,940 --> 00:51:55,560 not only like roughly parallel but 1122 00:52:02,060 --> 00:51:58,950 exactly like on the on the nose up to 1123 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:02,070 the second parallel how does that happen 1124 00:52:08,810 --> 00:52:05,250 and this whole thing like Roswell hmm 1125 00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:08,820 well what does that mean well Cadmus one 1126 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:12,540 of his myths is that he raided the Well 1127 00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,710 of Mars and he slayed the dragon the 1128 00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:19,440 dragon of Mars and he used the teeth 1129 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:23,369 from the dragon of Mars to create a race 1130 00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:29,010 of superhumans so we're kind of looking 1131 00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:30,780 at like wouldn't you know what does this 1132 00:52:37,579 --> 00:52:35,310 story mean the well of Mars dragon you 1133 00:52:41,180 --> 00:52:37,589 know it's all this very loaded symbology 1134 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:41,190 here Mars the red plant yeah you know 1135 00:52:48,890 --> 00:52:47,160 raw red Roz Rose well okay so oh well 1136 00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,900 that's interesting well maybe that's 1137 00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:50,640 just coincidental except for here's a 1138 00:53:00,500 --> 00:52:55,740 problem is that Cadmus he was initiated 1139 00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:00,510 into the into the arts of Technology 1140 00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:04,980 let's just say by the great gods of 1141 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:07,500 Samothrace they have a number of 1142 00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:11,210 different names the khabiri the 1143 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:15,240 telchines the dactyls 1144 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:17,010 I mean they would know by number of 1145 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:21,510 different names but they were the sons 1146 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:25,200 of Hephaestus and they crashed to 1147 00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:27,569 Samothrace in what was called the meteor 1148 00:53:33,620 --> 00:53:29,670 you know they were inside a meteor that 1149 00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:33,630 crashed on an island and then they set 1150 00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:38,190 up this temple where people came to 1151 00:53:43,069 --> 00:53:41,400 study the arts of you know the mystery 1152 00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:43,079 cults I don't use the term mystery 1153 00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:44,609 school because mystery school is a term 1154 00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:47,940 that was coined by Alice Bailey it's 1155 00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:51,020 actually not historically accurate term 1156 00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:53,670 there were no actual mystery schools 1157 00:53:58,970 --> 00:53:56,940 they were mystery cults but a you know 1158 00:54:00,339 --> 00:53:58,980 it's it's a submitted semantic argument 1159 00:54:01,450 --> 00:54:00,349 but 1160 00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:01,460 it's just something that always kind of 1161 00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:03,470 bugs me because it's an Alice Bailey ISM 1162 00:54:08,410 --> 00:54:05,420 right then anyway but the point is is 1163 00:54:13,390 --> 00:54:08,420 that okay so not only is Cadmus linked 1164 00:54:17,799 --> 00:54:13,400 to a red well a rose well he's also 1165 00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:17,809 linked to this spacecraft that crashed 1166 00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:21,440 earth and was filled with these what can 1167 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:23,390 only really be called alien creatures I 1168 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:25,130 mean it's been a number of different 1169 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:26,690 descriptions of them but they were said 1170 00:54:30,670 --> 00:54:29,210 to have pincers for hands sometimes they 1171 00:54:32,859 --> 00:54:30,680 were described as crab like being 1172 00:54:34,749 --> 00:54:32,869 sometimes described as men with pincers 1173 00:54:36,910 --> 00:54:34,759 sometimes they described as men with 1174 00:54:38,799 --> 00:54:36,920 pincers and dog heads you know I know 1175 00:54:41,859 --> 00:54:38,809 Gordon why I just talked a lot about the 1176 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:41,869 whole idea of dog heads so now here's 1177 00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,410 the interesting thing so later on there 1178 00:54:53,289 --> 00:54:48,799 is a lot of speculation that Bell 1179 00:54:56,999 --> 00:54:53,299 Laboratories acquired the technology for 1180 00:54:59,380 --> 00:54:57,009 the transistor which of course enabled 1181 00:55:00,099 --> 00:54:59,390 everything that we are familiar with 1182 00:55:02,979 --> 00:55:00,109 today 1183 00:55:06,489 --> 00:55:02,989 you know enabled solid-state technology 1184 00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:06,499 and enabled computer technology 1185 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:10,670 everything after that by our discovery 1186 00:55:16,269 --> 00:55:12,890 on you know a quote-unquote crashed 1187 00:55:17,709 --> 00:55:16,279 spaceship at Rob Lowe for timeline is 1188 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:17,719 fascinating because you had the crash at 1189 00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:21,529 Roswell and what five months later six 1190 00:55:28,799 --> 00:55:24,920 months later a team connected to 1191 00:55:32,799 --> 00:55:28,809 Vannevar Bush who is definitively 1192 00:55:37,089 --> 00:55:32,809 connected to a group that was charged 1193 00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:37,099 with studying UFO technology so his team 1194 00:55:44,829 --> 00:55:41,119 and he was also the chairman of the 1195 00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:44,839 board of 18t which owned Bell Labs I 1196 00:55:49,749 --> 00:55:46,910 mean the connections here make your head 1197 00:55:52,569 --> 00:55:49,759 spin but the point is is that Bell Labs 1198 00:55:55,329 --> 00:55:52,579 are the people who give us the 1199 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:55,339 transistor the first transistor okay 1200 00:55:59,019 --> 00:55:57,170 Bell Labs lady becomes loose in 1201 00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,029 technology everybody thinks this is a 1202 00:56:05,989 --> 00:56:00,799 nod to Lucifer okay 1203 00:56:09,269 --> 00:56:05,999 no Lucent is the same word as Cadmus 1204 00:56:11,069 --> 00:56:09,279 see what I'm saying it's like Lucent 1205 00:56:14,279 --> 00:56:11,079 actually could just as well be called 1206 00:56:18,059 --> 00:56:14,289 Cadmus technologies before Bell Labs 1207 00:56:20,699 --> 00:56:18,069 became loosened the last major computer 1208 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:20,709 program was called plan 9 from Bell Labs 1209 00:56:26,969 --> 00:56:25,150 and its mascot was with an alien a 1210 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:26,979 connection to the seance that channeled 1211 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,410 the nine maybe Arthur Young was in that 1212 00:56:36,809 --> 00:56:31,839 group and he worked for Bell Labs yeah 1213 00:56:39,989 --> 00:56:36,819 and exactly so like literally you need a 1214 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:39,999 spreadsheet like a flow chart mm-hmm to 1215 00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:42,910 make all these connections but let me 1216 00:56:47,069 --> 00:56:44,559 just boil this all down for people 1217 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:47,079 because they're probably just like what 1218 00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:48,930 the hell is this guy talk about 1219 00:56:57,799 --> 00:56:53,849 basically there is a very strong and 1220 00:57:00,930 --> 00:56:57,809 definitive connection between what is 1221 00:57:02,729 --> 00:57:00,940 not just mythology you know not just 1222 00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:02,739 like what you see on ancient aliens or 1223 00:57:06,209 --> 00:57:04,420 they just take like sort of random myths 1224 00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:06,219 and say old what they really meant was 1225 00:57:12,049 --> 00:57:08,920 that it was a spaceship you know not no 1226 00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:12,059 not that I'm talking about mystery cult 1227 00:57:19,309 --> 00:57:15,400 where you had to be initiated this was 1228 00:57:24,329 --> 00:57:19,319 all secret between mystery cults 1229 00:57:27,989 --> 00:57:24,339 symbolism quote-unquote alien technology 1230 00:57:32,579 --> 00:57:27,999 and phenomena and then high-technology 1231 00:57:36,329 --> 00:57:32,589 and then this combination is now 1232 00:57:38,189 --> 00:57:36,339 bleeding over into our politics now 1233 00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:38,199 here's the thing I began writing about 1234 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:42,880 this and I didn't even know why but 1235 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:46,140 I believe very strongly that this all 1236 00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:49,450 bled over into our political arena in a 1237 00:57:54,269 --> 00:57:52,119 big bad way I mean I haven't sort of 1238 00:57:57,359 --> 00:57:54,279 nailed this down this connection down I 1239 00:58:00,690 --> 00:57:57,369 will in my next post but Hillary stuck 1240 00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:00,700 her nose she basically stuck her nose in 1241 00:58:06,359 --> 00:58:04,150 in area 51 and they cut it off for her 1242 00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:06,369 you know I'm saying and that's basically 1243 00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:08,470 what happened here and she was someone 1244 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,670 that you would have thought I think a 1245 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:11,200 lot of people in their rudimentary 1246 00:58:14,999 --> 00:58:12,910 understanding this of these things would 1247 00:58:18,569 --> 00:58:15,009 have thought that she was kind of above 1248 00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:18,579 that you know what this is this is what 1249 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:23,950 scares me like literally because this is 1250 00:58:32,730 --> 00:58:28,690 obviously a higher level above you know 1251 00:58:34,769 --> 00:58:32,740 yeah the bushes and the Clintons and the 1252 00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:34,779 saw roses and all these other people 1253 00:58:40,019 --> 00:58:37,960 there's obviously somebody who can take 1254 00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:40,029 a stroll through George Soros his email 1255 00:58:47,789 --> 00:58:43,990 and put it up on the internet without 1256 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:47,799 any repercussions whatsoever right who 1257 00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:53,410 has the power to do that honestly I mean 1258 00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:56,200 when you begin to think about that it's 1259 00:59:01,650 --> 00:58:58,690 rather frightening and the interesting 1260 00:59:03,779 --> 00:59:01,660 thing is is that um when loosened 1261 00:59:05,249 --> 00:59:03,789 changed over it or when 18 when bell 1262 00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:05,259 labs change over to loosen my wife was 1263 00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:08,140 actually working there so I was driving 1264 00:59:11,279 --> 00:59:09,700 you know we only had one car at the time 1265 00:59:12,749 --> 00:59:11,289 so I was dropping her off there all the 1266 00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:12,759 time you know sort of like picking up 1267 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:17,049 that vibe but talk about the political 1268 00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:20,170 world sort of bleeding over here collie 1269 00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:23,640 Fiorina who ran for the Republican 1270 00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:27,160 nomination for president was I think 1271 00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:28,480 she's the one to blame 1272 00:59:33,569 --> 00:59:30,460 I think she's basically the one who 1273 00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:33,579 destroyed Lucent Technologies like we 1274 00:59:38,819 --> 00:59:36,640 had had loosened stock and at one point 1275 00:59:40,349 --> 00:59:38,829 it was like I think it was like $66 and 1276 00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:40,359 I told my wife because this is when the 1277 00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:41,710 dot-com crash and everything was 1278 00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:43,240 happening I told my wife I said cash out 1279 00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:45,400 on that stock now and she's like well I 1280 00:59:51,299 --> 00:59:47,680 heard it's going up to 99 I said no cash 1281 00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:51,309 out on it now and like a month later it 1282 00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:53,500 was like a nine cents or something to 1283 00:59:59,339 --> 00:59:56,440 him yeah it was it was brutal 1284 01:00:02,760 --> 00:59:59,349 um yeah I you know it's really familiar 1285 01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:02,770 with that stuff from the inside as much 1286 01:00:09,470 --> 01:00:05,230 as possible and it's really interesting 1287 01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:09,480 too because I mean Lucent is owned by a 1288 01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:12,760 Nokia now and you know it's just goes to 1289 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:14,349 show you that the you know that whole 1290 01:00:20,370 --> 01:00:18,160 world of international corporate power 1291 01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:20,380 is so incestuous 1292 01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:23,319 and so transnational yeah you know this 1293 01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,800 is the power behind globalism it's not 1294 01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:28,960 this kumbaya we're all going to be 1295 01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:32,200 brothers kind of business it's all about 1296 01:00:38,089 --> 01:00:35,740 the fact that these corporations are all 1297 01:00:41,339 --> 01:00:38,099 transnational that they don't respect 1298 01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:41,349 international borders they find national 1299 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:45,190 borders to be a nuisance a nuisance and 1300 01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:47,530 it's interesting too because Bernie 1301 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,190 Sanders was very frank about this I 1302 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:53,680 guess before he got the talk you know he 1303 01:00:59,220 --> 01:00:56,530 said this whole open borders business 1304 01:01:01,380 --> 01:00:59,230 this is the Koch brothers this isn't you 1305 01:01:04,859 --> 01:01:01,390 know this isn't liberalism this is this 1306 01:01:06,329 --> 01:01:04,869 is a Wall Street so they want to consume 1307 01:01:08,849 --> 01:01:06,339 everything until there's just one thing 1308 01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:08,859 yeah they just you know it's like a 1309 01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:11,980 drain and drop program this has just 1310 01:01:17,370 --> 01:01:13,780 been a really fascinating year because 1311 01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:17,380 so many of the the streams that I've 1312 01:01:20,849 --> 01:01:19,270 been studying all the little side 1313 01:01:23,010 --> 01:01:20,859 streets that I've been exploring have 1314 01:01:24,839 --> 01:01:23,020 become like the Main Street mm-hmm and 1315 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:24,849 and I don't know how much of it is 1316 01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:27,849 taking seriously by other researches I 1317 01:01:32,579 --> 01:01:30,520 think a lot of people still look in 1318 01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,589 particular directions but you know the 1319 01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:34,720 thing was with the models that I work 1320 01:01:38,730 --> 01:01:36,700 with their predictive it's like I know 1321 01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:38,740 where things are going to go because I 1322 01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:44,500 see the patterns from past events mm-hmm 1323 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:46,750 I just wanted to close the the Roswell 1324 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,970 loop real quick so sure we have this 1325 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:51,280 this ancient story of Cadmus and the 1326 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:53,530 Well of Souls we have Roswell beetles 1327 01:01:59,490 --> 01:01:57,130 Mars or I'm sorry the well Mars slip and 1328 01:02:02,130 --> 01:01:59,500 then we have the 34th parallel which is 1329 01:02:03,809 --> 01:02:02,140 the same whereas we see Baalbek and it's 1330 01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:03,819 just it's odd I mean it seems like 1331 01:02:08,550 --> 01:02:06,190 they're trying to set up conditions to 1332 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:08,560 mirror ancient texts or ancient stories 1333 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:10,330 is that the indication that you 1334 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:11,680 well I think that's always the 1335 01:02:16,740 --> 01:02:14,490 indication it's job you know what uh 1336 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:16,750 what I what I call getting their 1337 01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:19,510 attention you know what I mean it's it's 1338 01:02:27,090 --> 01:02:24,160 pulling off big events in signing you 1339 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,100 know the names of various figures that 1340 01:02:32,070 --> 01:02:29,440 you're trying to appeal to it's 1341 01:02:33,150 --> 01:02:32,080 basically the modus operandi of the 1342 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:33,160 space program 1343 01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:36,160 I mean why why on earth would you call 1344 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:40,600 that program a Syrus Rex it's the most 1345 01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:43,090 tortured acronym I think I've ever seen 1346 01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:46,390 in my life it's a it's it's absurd but 1347 01:02:50,790 --> 01:02:48,070 it's like no we have to call us as high 1348 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:50,800 as Rex will make it fit you know I mean 1349 01:02:54,690 --> 01:02:52,450 I think the same thing with the Lucifer 1350 01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:54,700 telescope exactly you know I mean it's 1351 01:03:03,440 --> 01:02:59,520 like they want to call upon these powers 1352 01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:03,450 they want to channel this energy and 1353 01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:06,340 part of it is this naming and this goes 1354 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:08,140 back I mean this goes back to the whole 1355 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:10,510 idea of names you know what I mean I 1356 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:12,610 mean you name something you name 1357 01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:15,010 somebody something or something or place 1358 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:17,860 that the whole idea of naming to begin 1359 01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:20,740 with is was with a you know a way a 1360 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:25,150 magical art of accruing power you know 1361 01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:27,430 what I'm saying it's like I am running 1362 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:29,920 Fox well that means you want to be 1363 01:03:34,350 --> 01:03:32,050 speedy you want to be stealthy you want 1364 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:34,360 to have that energy you know what I'm 1365 01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:38,170 saying it's like I am proud bull you 1366 01:03:42,210 --> 01:03:39,640 know trying to invoke those 1367 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:42,220 characteristics yeah it's it's it's it 1368 01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:45,010 exactly what you you put your finger on 1369 01:03:49,470 --> 01:03:46,600 the button there it's the art of 1370 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:49,480 invocation I believe that this whole 1371 01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:51,610 thing with Roswell like why would you 1372 01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:55,240 put you know all the nuclear bombs in 1373 01:04:02,400 --> 01:03:58,930 like this Army Air Force Base well 1374 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:02,410 because Roswell ties back to the well of 1375 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:04,750 Mars its Mars you're trying to invoke 1376 01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:07,480 Mars that's why you see what I'm saying 1377 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:10,240 yeah that's why I really very strongly 1378 01:04:15,140 --> 01:04:13,330 believe that it was a ritual and the 1379 01:04:17,790 --> 01:04:15,150 whole thing with general ramey the RAM 1380 01:04:20,610 --> 01:04:17,800 Jupiter Oman you know and it's like 1381 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:20,620 calling on very powerful gods and these 1382 01:04:25,230 --> 01:04:23,050 gods go back Allah 1383 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:25,240 way before Jehovah and all these other 1384 01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:27,340 figures you know I told you about this 1385 01:04:31,650 --> 01:04:29,980 figure that he goes by a number of 1386 01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:31,660 different names whether you're looking 1387 01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:35,910 at it from a Babylonian or Sumerian or 1388 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:38,620 Akkadian and it's interesting because 1389 01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:40,510 there's an invocation to this figure and 1390 01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:43,180 the Simon decrement icon as well this 1391 01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:46,000 character what he's called gira or bill 1392 01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:48,760 or era you know number of different 1393 01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:51,910 names Isom this ancient lucifer figure 1394 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:53,350 that i'm that i discussed at the 1395 01:04:59,550 --> 01:04:55,330 beginning of the year the program now 1396 01:05:02,120 --> 01:04:59,560 this figure goes back at least I mean we 1397 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:02,130 have written evidence of this figure 1398 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:06,730 2500 years before Christ okay now he's 1399 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:09,520 called the Shepherd of God 2500 years 1400 01:05:13,290 --> 01:05:11,290 before Christ who do you think came 1401 01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:13,300 first you know it's like you know the 1402 01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:15,310 people who wrote the Bible where do you 1403 01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:16,630 think they were getting all this 1404 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:18,160 information from they were getting from 1405 01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:20,650 the library of Babylon you know what I 1406 01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:23,620 mean it's like so it's the same process 1407 01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:25,630 it's drawing upon these very ancient 1408 01:05:32,190 --> 01:05:29,710 powerful energies to appropriate that 1409 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:32,200 power for yourself right it's human 1410 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:34,210 nature it's something that 1411 01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:36,130 anthropologists and psychologists will 1412 01:05:44,030 --> 01:05:40,750 have to explain but I would argue that 1413 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:44,040 it most certainly has magical 1414 01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:47,050 repercussions that it produces results 1415 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:50,350 and it why do I say that because if it 1416 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:52,330 didn't people wouldn't do it anymore 1417 01:05:56,850 --> 01:05:54,730 mhmmm you know people don't be cute on 1418 01:05:58,530 --> 01:05:56,860 me tea leaves anymore mm-hmm 1419 01:06:01,590 --> 01:05:58,540 they're all kind of magical practices 1420 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:01,600 that that aren't in use anymore you know 1421 01:06:08,340 --> 01:06:04,330 what I mean right and some that are yeah 1422 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:08,350 the whole psychological explanation for 1423 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:12,130 these practices really doesn't pan out 1424 01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:14,770 because you have to wonder like well why 1425 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:16,600 do people still work with tarot decks 1426 01:06:21,390 --> 01:06:18,760 well because they're happy with the 1427 01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:21,400 results you know what I mean I mean 1428 01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:23,830 puris people don't really least in the 1429 01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:25,060 West I mean you don't see a lot of 1430 01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,680 people working with I Ching I mean there 1431 01:06:31,290 --> 01:06:28,240 are a lot of divination systems that 1432 01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,300 people just don't use but they still use 1433 01:06:34,380 --> 01:06:33,760 astrology they still use the Tarot you 1434 01:06:37,799 --> 01:06:34,390 know they still 1435 01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:37,809 use a Ouija boards why do they use them 1436 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:40,329 because they work you know as far as 1437 01:06:43,859 --> 01:06:42,130 they're concerned you know I mean if 1438 01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:43,869 they didn't work they wouldn't be used 1439 01:06:49,470 --> 01:06:47,200 yep so let me ask you about if we get 1440 01:06:51,269 --> 01:06:49,480 into technology today there's a lot of 1441 01:06:54,450 --> 01:06:51,279 people that get caught up in the latest 1442 01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:54,460 apps and VR but in areas where is where 1443 01:06:58,019 --> 01:06:56,049 it really counts I mean you're pretty 1444 01:06:59,460 --> 01:06:58,029 critical saying that innovation seems to 1445 01:07:01,650 --> 01:06:59,470 be long dead what are your thoughts on 1446 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:01,660 Silicon Valley and what's happening see 1447 01:07:07,890 --> 01:07:05,410 that isn't just me the only major figure 1448 01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:07,900 in Silicon Valley who supported Donald 1449 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:09,430 Trump is a guy named Peter Thiel and 1450 01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:11,049 he's one of the founders of PayPal and 1451 01:07:16,049 --> 01:07:13,660 he also runs this security company 1452 01:07:18,420 --> 01:07:16,059 called Talent here and you know he says 1453 01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:18,430 that we haven't had real innovation in 1454 01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:21,940 40 years or maybe even 45 years he said 1455 01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:24,940 since the early 1970s everything that 1456 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:26,799 would they're working with now say 1457 01:07:32,420 --> 01:07:30,010 snapchat and instant messaging and all 1458 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:32,430 this kind of stuff these are all 1459 01:07:38,579 --> 01:07:34,569 refinements of technologies that were 1460 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:38,589 being developed in the 60s like in 1461 01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:40,809 literally in the 1960s you know we 1462 01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:42,880 talked about this guy Vannevar Bush okay 1463 01:07:49,319 --> 01:07:46,089 the guy who is provably through 1464 01:07:50,999 --> 01:07:49,329 government documents at least was known 1465 01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:51,009 to be interested in studying UFO 1466 01:07:55,710 --> 01:07:54,160 technology at the same time he's deeply 1467 01:07:58,099 --> 01:07:55,720 connected to the development of 1468 01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:58,109 transistor and all the rest of it he 1469 01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:00,299 basically 1470 01:08:08,839 --> 01:08:04,500 conceptualized the world wide web in the 1471 01:08:11,789 --> 01:08:08,849 1940s okay he wrote a very famous essay 1472 01:08:14,819 --> 01:08:11,799 that conceptualized the the world wide 1473 01:08:19,249 --> 01:08:14,829 web all the way back then so there's 1474 01:08:22,979 --> 01:08:19,259 been a whole movement of very brave 1475 01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:22,989 sociologists professors all these kind 1476 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:24,940 of people are saying you know what all 1477 01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:27,250 the [\h__\h] you're reading about technology 1478 01:08:32,910 --> 01:08:30,400 and science and all the rest of it none 1479 01:08:34,169 --> 01:08:32,920 of it is true and this is something that 1480 01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:34,179 I've been talking about for years 1481 01:08:39,870 --> 01:08:37,120 because I was reading wired back in the 1482 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:39,880 early 90s I was reading mondo 2000 you 1483 01:08:45,599 --> 01:08:42,489 know I was always like every time DARPA 1484 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:45,609 put out a headline I mean I just counted 1485 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:47,410 the amount of headlines the DARPA put 1486 01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:50,770 out that never appear you know that 1487 01:08:55,530 --> 01:08:53,020 never hit the market or never hit the 1488 01:08:59,130 --> 01:08:55,540 battlefield oh you know you name it and 1489 01:09:01,709 --> 01:08:59,140 the thing is is that all these articles 1490 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:01,719 that people put in their Facebook feeds 1491 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:03,489 and and I think it's starting to sort of 1492 01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:06,250 died down a bit but you know all this I 1493 01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:08,460 I [\h__\h] love science kind of stuff 1494 01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:11,710 when you actually read the articles 1495 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:14,350 they're so filled with qualifiers and 1496 01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:18,130 and walk backs and oh maybe this will 1497 01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:21,310 happen we'll see you know it's like say 1498 01:09:24,930 --> 01:09:22,750 an example it's like you know you will 1499 01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:24,940 grow two heads in the future and it's 1500 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:27,279 like oh my god it'll be amazing and it's 1501 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:29,830 like it's like well if the technology 1502 01:09:34,019 --> 01:09:32,290 emerges it will allow you to grow two 1503 01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:34,029 heads you'll grow two heads I mean like 1504 01:09:37,769 --> 01:09:35,980 literally that's like the article it's 1505 01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:37,779 like yeah it's that amount of 1506 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:40,480 foolishness smoke and mirrors it's smoke 1507 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,250 and mirrors because it's it has a 1508 01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:44,880 political it reminds me very much of 1509 01:09:52,820 --> 01:09:49,750 like late Soviet propagandizing my wife 1510 01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:52,830 had given me some Soviet world magazines 1511 01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:55,540 because they had some stuff on Mars and 1512 01:09:59,070 --> 01:09:57,280 some interesting things on the space 1513 01:10:01,709 --> 01:09:59,080 program you know it's interesting that 1514 01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:01,719 our modern version of the Soviet 1515 01:10:06,419 --> 01:10:04,719 government the Obama administration was 1516 01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:06,429 also pushing this whole thing with Mars 1517 01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:08,830 and all of the rest of it you know this 1518 01:10:13,709 --> 01:10:10,870 whole like techno hype and techno 1519 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:13,719 worship and everything it's part of this 1520 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:14,410 whole 1521 01:10:22,650 --> 01:10:19,930 false concept of futurism of progress 1522 01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:22,660 being a straight line a linear process 1523 01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:24,760 that's that's constantly going up and 1524 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:27,430 when you really look at progress it's a 1525 01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:29,850 scribbly line that has a lot of sharp 1526 01:10:35,070 --> 01:10:32,230 lines going backwards and things like 1527 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:35,080 that I mean the thing is is that I mean 1528 01:10:38,370 --> 01:10:36,370 I'm older than you 1529 01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:38,380 I'm older than probably a lot of your 1530 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:43,840 audience okay so I grew up really just 1531 01:10:48,090 --> 01:10:45,490 as a lot of this technology we're 1532 01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:48,100 starting to dig in here's an example 1533 01:10:53,010 --> 01:10:50,260 it's like when I was a kid like the big 1534 01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:53,020 thing was pong okay like how great 1535 01:10:56,430 --> 01:10:55,000 because you could play like you didn't 1536 01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:56,440 you didn't need like somebody to play 1537 01:11:00,150 --> 01:10:58,330 against you could just play the Machine 1538 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:00,160 you know I was playing games like 1539 01:11:05,610 --> 01:11:02,890 Seawolf and later on I was playing like 1540 01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,620 asteroids and space invaders and stuff 1541 01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:08,400 like that really super primitive stuff 1542 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:13,120 but it was so new it was so different it 1543 01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:16,090 was just like you could play Monopoly 1544 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:21,430 or solitaire or tinker toys or you could 1545 01:11:26,910 --> 01:11:24,730 play Seawolf I mean just like it was a 1546 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:26,920 paradigm shift right you know what I 1547 01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:27,310 mean 1548 01:11:34,580 --> 01:11:30,400 the technocrats have been trying to sell 1549 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:34,590 this whole concept of a never-ending 1550 01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:38,170 paradigm shift but this is where I start 1551 01:11:44,150 --> 01:11:40,990 to just question the whole nature of 1552 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:44,160 this paradigm shift because you saw 1553 01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:47,530 basically a static line of technological 1554 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:49,720 advancement you know maybe going up 1555 01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:51,370 maybe going down maybe going up maybe 1556 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:54,400 going down you know over a couple of 1557 01:12:00,300 --> 01:11:56,290 millennia and then the line shoots 1558 01:12:02,910 --> 01:12:00,310 straight up right after 1947 oh gee what 1559 01:12:05,610 --> 01:12:02,920 happened then right interesting I mean 1560 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:05,620 I'm not saying that you know they 1561 01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:09,730 reversed spacecraft technology I don't 1562 01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:11,860 necessarily believe that's true but I 1563 01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:13,920 believe that something happened 1564 01:12:19,180 --> 01:12:17,120 extraordinary something that 1565 01:12:22,420 --> 01:12:19,190 would freak people the hell out if they 1566 01:12:25,660 --> 01:12:22,430 if they actually understood we may never 1567 01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:25,670 actually know how it went down you know 1568 01:12:29,740 --> 01:12:27,680 what I mean we can only speculate but I 1569 01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:29,750 do think it has to do with non-human 1570 01:12:35,140 --> 01:12:33,110 intelligences absolutely absolutely I 1571 01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:35,150 don't know who they are I don't know how 1572 01:12:40,570 --> 01:12:37,940 they how they operate but somehow they 1573 01:12:43,780 --> 01:12:40,580 decided okay now now it's the time for 1574 01:12:44,260 --> 01:12:43,790 this to click in mm-hmm yeah you know 1575 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:44,270 what I mean 1576 01:12:51,790 --> 01:12:46,250 because the line just shot straight up 1577 01:12:52,450 --> 01:12:51,800 but the problem is is that since Xerox 1578 01:12:56,170 --> 01:12:52,460 PARC 1579 01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:56,180 and the personal computer and all the 1580 01:13:01,390 --> 01:12:58,640 rest of it it's just been incremental 1581 01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,400 all they've been doing is just little 1582 01:13:05,380 --> 01:13:03,920 touch-ups up at the at the edges right 1583 01:13:07,570 --> 01:13:05,390 where's the advancements in energy 1584 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:07,580 transportation space travel you know 1585 01:13:12,250 --> 01:13:09,250 rockets are the same as they were then 1586 01:13:15,190 --> 01:13:12,260 essentially exactly so there's this 1587 01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:15,200 whole idea of the e/m drives I don't 1588 01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:19,070 know how much of it is still theoretical 1589 01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:22,760 there's a lot of science that can work 1590 01:13:29,170 --> 01:13:26,600 like gangbusters on paper but once you 1591 01:13:30,850 --> 01:13:29,180 get to the application stage it requires 1592 01:13:34,420 --> 01:13:30,860 too much energy you know blah blah blah 1593 01:13:37,810 --> 01:13:34,430 there's just too much qualification that 1594 01:13:40,420 --> 01:13:37,820 makes it untenable now here's the thing 1595 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:40,430 interestingly enough electromagnetic and 1596 01:13:44,260 --> 01:13:42,050 electric grid expand all the stuff and 1597 01:13:45,940 --> 01:13:44,270 these are things that people in the u.s. 1598 01:13:50,110 --> 01:13:45,950 follow G field I've been talking you 1599 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:50,120 know as relates to recovered and reverse 1600 01:13:54,340 --> 01:13:52,490 engineered technology for a number of 1601 01:13:56,710 --> 01:13:54,350 years so I mean we'll just put that 1602 01:14:00,610 --> 01:13:56,720 aside I'll just table that for now but 1603 01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:00,620 the point is is that we're not going to 1604 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:03,230 work in jetpacks cars are essentially 1605 01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:05,330 the same as they've been for 50 or 60 1606 01:14:07,870 --> 01:14:05,870 years 1607 01:14:11,860 --> 01:14:07,880 I mean refrigerated and essentially the 1608 01:14:14,260 --> 01:14:11,870 same dishwashers actually our Public 1609 01:14:16,210 --> 01:14:14,270 Works infrastructure is deteriorating 1610 01:14:20,770 --> 01:14:16,220 it's getting worse 1611 01:14:22,780 --> 01:14:20,780 you know bridges water gas electric it's 1612 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:22,790 in serious trouble I mean that's one 1613 01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:24,290 thing that the Trump was actually 1614 01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:26,480 dead-on about is that we've got some 1615 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:28,430 serious major problems with with our 1616 01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:30,050 infrastructure in the United States 1617 01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:30,940 right 1618 01:14:36,990 --> 01:14:34,420 it's deteriorating and it threatens you 1619 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:37,000 know our economic future mm-hmm what 1620 01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:39,010 about the argument that for the past 1621 01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:41,560 couple decades all the technologies we 1622 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:42,550 don't see them because they've gone 1623 01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:44,590 underground deep state projects I'll 1624 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:46,240 rake away civilization stuff do you 1625 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:47,890 think those claims might be overinflated 1626 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:50,710 I think they're overinflated but I but 1627 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:53,170 like I said I mean get back to what I 1628 01:14:58,230 --> 01:14:54,370 was saying about Hillary and John 1629 01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:58,240 Podesta I think that there is a core of 1630 01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:01,360 truth to them I think that there is wild 1631 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:04,990 speculation pasted on to them I'll give 1632 01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:08,170 you a perfect example now this is an 1633 01:15:12,660 --> 01:15:10,350 example I always like to bring up in 1634 01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:12,670 1966 which seems to be a very crucial 1635 01:15:17,460 --> 01:15:14,110 year because that's also the other name 1636 01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:17,470 chaos and kicked in in 1966 1637 01:15:26,180 --> 01:15:21,600 we saw the secret technology of the 1638 01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:26,190 sr-71 blackbird emerge from skunk works 1639 01:15:33,930 --> 01:15:29,590 this is a plane that has yet to be 1640 01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:33,940 equalled so 50 years ago the greatest 1641 01:15:40,770 --> 01:15:37,270 form of human transportation that has 1642 01:15:44,190 --> 01:15:40,780 ever been unleashed was Unleashed you 1643 01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:44,200 know it could outrun anything flying 1644 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:48,640 today now the Obama administration put 1645 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:50,650 all its chips behind what was called the 1646 01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,690 f-35 program which was supposed to be 1647 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:54,880 the cutting edge of technology and it's 1648 01:16:00,480 --> 01:15:57,730 turning out to be a dog a lot of our 1649 01:16:02,910 --> 01:16:00,490 allies of stuck with it but there was a 1650 01:16:05,220 --> 01:16:02,920 lot of speculation that the reports of 1651 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:05,230 this program being a dog or all this 1652 01:16:09,630 --> 01:16:07,690 info to fool the Russians exist and now 1653 01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:09,640 we're seeing that the the a-10 warthog 1654 01:16:12,690 --> 01:16:11,020 isn't going to be replaced and 1655 01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:12,700 everything like that so you know the 1656 01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:14,440 proof is in the pudding it's like if 1657 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:15,700 they're not going to replace this 1658 01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,250 ancient plane you know the thing that 1659 01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:20,800 we're supposed to replace it as a dog so 1660 01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:24,910 I just wonder like okay if we had the 1661 01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:29,760 sr-71 50 years ago 50 years ago mind you 1662 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:33,280 like what happened after that what's 1663 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:35,470 happened since you know we've had the b2 1664 01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:37,810 which is which is pretty impressive and 1665 01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:40,450 it's an impressive machine you know all 1666 01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:42,310 these different kind of stealth things 1667 01:16:45,890 --> 01:16:45,310 but still I mean we peaked fifty years 1668 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:45,900 ago 1669 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:49,570 why now now the thing is is that I 1670 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:52,570 believe I do believe that there are more 1671 01:16:58,050 --> 01:16:57,010 that the black world is keeping things 1672 01:17:00,030 --> 01:16:58,060 to themselves 1673 01:17:02,490 --> 01:17:00,040 yeah and I think that there's a major 1674 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:02,500 power struggle over this and I think 1675 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:04,090 that you know what they called the 1676 01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:06,010 Rockefeller report that Clinton was 1677 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:07,870 involved in Lawrence Rockefeller and I 1678 01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:09,370 think Steven Greer got involved with it 1679 01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:13,750 I think this was that world that ended 1680 01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:16,990 the power structure that facet trying to 1681 01:17:23,580 --> 01:17:19,920 sort of muscle in on the action and 1682 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:23,590 paying the price yeah my problem with a 1683 01:17:28,170 --> 01:17:25,570 lot of conspiracy thinking is this whole 1684 01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:28,180 idea of a monolithic power structure I 1685 01:17:35,250 --> 01:17:32,590 think that that is just not true right 1686 01:17:37,170 --> 01:17:35,260 it's more Game of Thrones I think it was 1687 01:17:38,670 --> 01:17:37,180 literally a game of Thrones right and I 1688 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:38,680 think we might've just seen the red 1689 01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:41,170 wedding haha it might have taken place 1690 01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:43,870 behind the scenes but you know like I 1691 01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:46,510 said I get a very strange sense there's 1692 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:49,990 an eerie calm descending of Washington 1693 01:17:55,260 --> 01:17:52,570 right now you know I can strangely 1694 01:17:57,210 --> 01:17:55,270 enough I mean let's just tie this all 1695 01:18:00,150 --> 01:17:57,220 back because I'm going on a lot of 1696 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:00,160 different tangents here but let me just 1697 01:18:06,210 --> 01:18:02,290 say what this is all really about is 1698 01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:06,220 that all these kind of side streets that 1699 01:18:10,710 --> 01:18:08,350 I've been wandering down led me back 1700 01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:10,720 into the Main Street you know and a lot 1701 01:18:13,410 --> 01:18:11,920 of things that I've been studying that 1702 01:18:16,710 --> 01:18:13,420 people thought were maybe kind of 1703 01:18:18,750 --> 01:18:16,720 eccentric or irrelevant you know you 1704 01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:18,760 should be studying marnark program and 1705 01:18:22,290 --> 01:18:20,860 butterflies and kitten program and all 1706 01:18:24,690 --> 01:18:22,300 this kind of stuff it's like a well you 1707 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,700 know whatever when I started doing the 1708 01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:26,320 whole thing with him pay off and I think 1709 01:18:30,030 --> 01:18:28,270 a lot of people thought like well why is 1710 01:18:33,810 --> 01:18:30,040 he talking about that you know and that 1711 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:33,820 was 50 years ago well what do we see now 1712 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:36,250 we see the Satanic temple trying to 1713 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:40,210 start satanic clubs in elementary 1714 01:18:48,150 --> 01:18:43,810 schools and we see the guy who runs that 1715 01:18:50,820 --> 01:18:48,160 little operation he was a neuroscience 1716 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:50,830 major at Harvard he's involved with 1717 01:18:55,250 --> 01:18:52,690 people like Richard Dawkins he's 1718 01:18:58,490 --> 01:18:55,260 involved with the false 1719 01:19:02,180 --> 01:18:58,500 memory syndrome foundation which is just 1720 01:19:04,460 --> 01:19:02,190 riddled with pedophiles and CIA and kl4 1721 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:04,470 people you see do you see what I'm 1722 01:19:09,890 --> 01:19:07,890 getting at here it's like I don't know 1723 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:09,900 why exactly why I started writing about 1724 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:11,489 that stuff either like I had no idea 1725 01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:13,650 that they were doing an exorcist TV 1726 01:19:19,010 --> 01:19:16,500 series and then that popped up it was 1727 01:19:21,050 --> 01:19:19,020 very it was very interesting that well I 1728 01:19:24,380 --> 01:19:21,060 was in the middle of that like The 1729 01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:24,390 Exorcist thing pops up again so I don't 1730 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:26,310 know it's just a very it's been a very 1731 01:19:30,050 --> 01:19:28,050 strange year it's been an extremely 1732 01:19:32,930 --> 01:19:30,060 strange year you know it's like for me 1733 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:32,940 personally and and and in the world and 1734 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:34,410 I don't think that people really 1735 01:19:39,380 --> 01:19:36,770 understand how strange it is I mean 1736 01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:39,390 maybe it'll take till next year to fit 1737 01:19:42,530 --> 01:19:40,920 you know for the dust is settled but 1738 01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,540 like very strange things have been 1739 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:43,920 happening I mean Donald Trump is 1740 01:19:48,410 --> 01:19:46,290 president think about that I mean just 1741 01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:48,420 like think about that for a minute like 1742 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:51,510 a guy who like is a couple years ago was 1743 01:19:58,130 --> 01:19:55,489 like on Celebrity Apprentice is now 1744 01:20:01,850 --> 01:19:58,140 ostensibly the most powerful man in the 1745 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:01,860 world makes no sense this is surreal so 1746 01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:03,570 what I do want to ask you this though in 1747 01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:06,420 terms of the technological halts that we 1748 01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:07,710 are talking about just a few minutes ago 1749 01:20:12,620 --> 01:20:10,800 um the idea that we're in an artificial 1750 01:20:14,510 --> 01:20:12,630 environment has always been interesting 1751 01:20:15,860 --> 01:20:14,520 to me and you tie this into the 1752 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:15,870 surprising lack of technological 1753 01:20:21,380 --> 01:20:18,210 achievements lately in your astro 1754 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:21,390 gnostic posts saying things like one has 1755 01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,850 to wonder what would a world in which 1756 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,920 humanity were trapped or quarantine on a 1757 01:20:29,450 --> 01:20:27,600 prison planet looked like maybe our 1758 01:20:31,729 --> 01:20:29,460 spacecraft would be subject to constant 1759 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:31,739 monitoring harassment maybe after 60 1760 01:20:35,060 --> 01:20:33,600 years of trying we'd be no closer to 1761 01:20:37,220 --> 01:20:35,070 breaking Earth's orbit than we were when 1762 01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,230 we started and maybe our most ambitious 1763 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:39,360 attempts to jailbreak earth would be 1764 01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:41,610 subject to devastating acts of sabotage 1765 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:44,460 sightings a SpaceX launch and certain 1766 01:20:48,830 --> 01:20:45,930 experiments they've had wrenches thrown 1767 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:48,840 in the Columbia yeah I love that stuff I 1768 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:50,730 mean do you think it's getting easier to 1769 01:20:54,650 --> 01:20:52,770 make the case that we might be on some 1770 01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:54,660 type of quarantine situation with these 1771 01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:56,940 over Watchers not really allowing us to 1772 01:21:02,030 --> 01:21:00,000 get beyond our little snow globe well 1773 01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:02,040 here's the thing who made that argument 1774 01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:05,460 a hundred years ago Charles Ford hmm 1775 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:08,310 okay I mean let me just give credit 1776 01:21:11,610 --> 01:21:08,530 where 1777 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:11,620 credit is due I did not invent that 1778 01:21:16,650 --> 01:21:15,370 whole way of looking at the world you 1779 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:16,660 know that groundwork had been laid for 1780 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:19,690 for all of us you really have to wonder 1781 01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:21,370 because the interesting thing to me is 1782 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:24,550 that we find out that Elon Musk is 1783 01:21:28,710 --> 01:21:26,770 starting to talk about maybe we're 1784 01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:28,720 living in a computer simulation you know 1785 01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:30,760 not long after one of his very expensive 1786 01:21:37,290 --> 01:21:33,150 rockets blows up on the launch pad 1787 01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:37,300 mm-hmm now we've all seen that video 1788 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:41,980 with that strange object that flies by 1789 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:45,040 just before that thing blows up you know 1790 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:47,650 this is a very interesting kind of 1791 01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:49,570 cognitive dissonance that applies to 1792 01:21:59,160 --> 01:21:54,910 that because I believe in many ways so 1793 01:22:02,190 --> 01:21:59,170 much of ufology and movies and Hollywood 1794 01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:02,200 and everything is not part of a 1795 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:04,990 conditioning program to get us to accept 1796 01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:07,810 our alien overlords and whatever kind of 1797 01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:11,140 nonsense you know you hear I think it's 1798 01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:15,820 actually to just make us to dismiss to 1799 01:22:21,570 --> 01:22:19,660 ignore when things like that happen when 1800 01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:21,580 we see all these things flying around 1801 01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:24,760 harassing the space station and 1802 01:22:30,150 --> 01:22:26,740 everything like that I mean it's been 1803 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:30,160 happening fairly regularly now and they 1804 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:31,570 always cut the feed and it's like oh 1805 01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:33,610 well wheat that's what we just cut the 1806 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:35,560 feed anyway it was it was time to cut 1807 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:38,050 the feed yeah sure well if you don't 1808 01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:39,930 think so you're a conspiracy theorist 1809 01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:42,400 okay well I guess you know I won't be 1810 01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:44,110 invited to the good parties then huh 1811 01:22:48,660 --> 01:22:45,400 never mind 1812 01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:48,670 right you know I mean mm-hmm well to tie 1813 01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:50,320 it back into ancient texts about a 1814 01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,300 cosmic war might we be dealing with some 1815 01:22:58,140 --> 01:22:54,400 kind of consequences or ramifications 1816 01:23:01,320 --> 01:22:58,150 for that ancient rebellion I you know 1817 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:01,330 it's it would be pure conjecture on my 1818 01:23:06,210 --> 01:23:03,730 part I mean all I can do is just look at 1819 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:06,220 the fact that you know we're constantly 1820 01:23:11,370 --> 01:23:09,130 hearing all this stuff oh we have the 1821 01:23:14,130 --> 01:23:11,380 technology to send et home we have the 1822 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:14,140 technology to reach the stars you know 1823 01:23:18,270 --> 01:23:16,450 we have the technology to put men on the 1824 01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:18,280 moon and all this kind of stuff and it's 1825 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:21,040 like well okay why aren't we you know 1826 01:23:29,550 --> 01:23:22,000 what 1827 01:23:33,150 --> 01:23:29,560 hearing all these drags from the 1828 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:33,160 aerospace quarter but nothing is ever 1829 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:36,850 done I mean all we ever see is all this 1830 01:23:41,340 --> 01:23:39,490 junk parked in low-earth orbit and they 1831 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:41,350 grow in tomatoes and playing guitars up 1832 01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:42,970 there you know what they're really doing 1833 01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:45,160 is putting up surveillance satellites 1834 01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:49,180 and things like that but I would say 1835 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:51,790 quite strongly that that is the 1836 01:23:57,390 --> 01:23:54,690 strongest possibilities of all the 1837 01:24:00,300 --> 01:23:57,400 various scenarios that people would 1838 01:24:03,150 --> 01:24:00,310 would argue about is that that we are 1839 01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:03,160 stuck here yeah a lot of pieces fit that 1840 01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:05,320 puzzle you know the Gnostics are right 1841 01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:10,270 so how they knew you know before there 1842 01:24:15,650 --> 01:24:12,580 was manned space flight somehow they 1843 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:15,660 figured it all out I'd love to know how 1844 01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:20,410 I'd love to know who told them I mean 1845 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:22,270 when you read those texts and I'm not 1846 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,010 talking like the NAG Hammadi stuff 1847 01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:26,320 that's an entirely different culture 1848 01:24:31,530 --> 01:24:28,780 that's sort of like you know when people 1849 01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:31,540 talk about the NAG Hammadi Gnostics that 1850 01:24:34,380 --> 01:24:32,440 to me is like those are the 1851 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:34,390 hippie-dippie Gnostics you know I mean 1852 01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:37,210 those are like the city dwellers they're 1853 01:24:40,710 --> 01:24:38,710 like sort of like the Occupy Wall Street 1854 01:24:42,710 --> 01:24:40,720 Gnostics the kind of Gnostics that I'm 1855 01:24:45,540 --> 01:24:42,720 interested in the ones who've like 1856 01:24:47,130 --> 01:24:45,550 survived for 2,000 years and like the 1857 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:47,140 worst neighborhoods in the world I'm 1858 01:24:54,210 --> 01:24:49,810 talking like the mandaeans and the musi 1859 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:54,220 D and the Druze people like that who 1860 01:25:00,210 --> 01:24:57,730 like dealt with numerous attempts to 1861 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:00,220 genocide them out of existence and still 1862 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:02,890 keep on tickin those are the kind of 1863 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:05,050 Gnostics that I'm interested in and it's 1864 01:25:07,860 --> 01:25:06,610 interesting because a lot of people who 1865 01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:07,870 are interested in Gnosticism don't 1866 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:09,460 necessarily recognize those people as 1867 01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:11,410 Gnostics but those people to meet other 1868 01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:14,460 real Gnostics and if you read their um 1869 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:18,280 their literature it's just chock filled 1870 01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:20,890 with like one flying saucer after 1871 01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:23,470 another so I think that they were keyed 1872 01:25:28,590 --> 01:25:25,270 in from where a long time ago and I 1873 01:25:30,990 --> 01:25:28,600 think that their cosmology is bearing 1874 01:25:33,710 --> 01:25:31,000 fruit now you know interestingly enough 1875 01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:33,720 and maybe that's why there's such a 1876 01:25:39,060 --> 01:25:35,320 determined effort 1877 01:25:40,010 --> 01:25:39,070 today to wipe them out it wouldn't 1878 01:25:43,319 --> 01:25:40,020 surprise me 1879 01:25:45,419 --> 01:25:43,329 you know seriously yeah you know and not 1880 01:25:48,740 --> 01:25:45,429 in all seriousness I think that you know 1881 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:48,750 because they have access to information 1882 01:25:57,180 --> 01:25:53,489 very possibly from sources outside 1883 01:26:01,530 --> 01:25:57,190 everyday reality right it's part of this 1884 01:26:03,419 --> 01:26:01,540 game I get it but man it's been a great 1885 01:26:06,689 --> 01:26:03,429 time talking to you we all we've gone 1886 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:06,699 into three hours now to wrap this up if 1887 01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:08,530 people want to get more crystals and who 1888 01:26:16,050 --> 01:26:11,710 doesn't where should they go just go to 1889 01:26:19,589 --> 01:26:16,060 secrets on blog spot.com and as soon as 1890 01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:19,599 I possibly can I have a lot of material 1891 01:26:23,550 --> 01:26:22,780 for new books that I will definitely be 1892 01:26:27,410 --> 01:26:23,560 self-publishing 1893 01:26:30,510 --> 01:26:27,420 gordon has convinced me to do so nice I 1894 01:26:32,250 --> 01:26:30,520 definitely see the light now it's just a 1895 01:26:35,129 --> 01:26:32,260 question of getting the time to put them 1896 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:35,139 together but a lot of this will make a 1897 01:26:39,089 --> 01:26:37,090 lot more sense when it's put into book 1898 01:26:42,839 --> 01:26:39,099 form I know we sort of rambled and we 1899 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:42,849 sort of wandered around a lot but when 1900 01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:45,489 you see it all laid out you'll make a 1901 01:26:52,319 --> 01:26:48,520 lot more sense and what we should do is 1902 01:26:55,109 --> 01:26:52,329 that if you link to the blog I will link 1903 01:26:58,500 --> 01:26:55,119 to the post in question so people can 1904 01:27:01,229 --> 01:26:58,510 see things laid out more coherently than 1905 01:27:04,290 --> 01:27:01,239 what I was able to do here 1906 01:27:07,859 --> 01:27:04,300 sure when people see like the lucifer's 1907 01:27:10,050 --> 01:27:07,869 technologies material laid out that it 1908 01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:10,060 will make a lot more sense to them yeah 1909 01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:13,000 it's it's dense and it's just a short 1910 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:15,310 conversation but I appreciate you coming 1911 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:16,810 back you are one of the Great's when it 1912 01:27:20,370 --> 01:27:19,090 comes to getting past the dramatic cover 1913 01:27:23,010 --> 01:27:20,380 stories and getting into the real meat 1914 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:23,020 of things I think personally I try to 1915 01:27:26,879 --> 01:27:24,880 adopt a more mature approach to the 1916 01:27:28,589 --> 01:27:26,889 stuff and a big part of that is your 1917 01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:28,599 influence and gordon's influence so 1918 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:30,550 thanks again and take care of yourself 1919 01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:32,290 out there all right man all right thank 1920 01:27:39,959 --> 01:27:36,400 you sir you got it all right peace boom 1921 01:27:41,339 --> 01:27:39,969 people I know Chris thinks we jumped 1922 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:41,349 around a little too much but I loved 1923 01:27:46,140 --> 01:27:44,170 this one I've read all the posts he was 1924 01:27:48,779 --> 01:27:46,150 referring to so maybe I had some helpful 1925 01:27:50,459 --> 01:27:48,789 context to stitch it together 1926 01:27:52,409 --> 01:27:50,469 but I think it all worked I hope it all 1927 01:27:54,389 --> 01:27:52,419 makes sense you could tell we were 1928 01:27:57,179 --> 01:27:54,399 clearly distracted with the election 1929 01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:57,189 results and the Podesta leaks we left a 1930 01:28:01,289 --> 01:27:58,719 lot on the table from what we were going 1931 01:28:03,149 --> 01:28:01,299 to talk about because of that but check 1932 01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:03,159 out is Lucifer Tec series itself if you 1933 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:05,289 want to dig deeper or just wait for the 1934 01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:08,489 book you know early on Chris mentioned 1935 01:28:13,289 --> 01:28:11,260 Lucifer's prayers always emphasizing 1936 01:28:16,799 --> 01:28:13,299 I'll have no other gods before you and 1937 01:28:19,289 --> 01:28:16,809 that kind of thing almost being the 1938 01:28:20,699 --> 01:28:19,299 first recorded monotheism it's funny 1939 01:28:22,649 --> 01:28:20,709 because there's a lot of talk about the 1940 01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,659 deity flip that the Vatican is 1941 01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:24,639 channeling energy for a negative being 1942 01:28:29,759 --> 01:28:27,249 painted in a positive light and at the 1943 01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:29,769 same time have no other gods before me 1944 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:32,409 is what we're told the one true God says 1945 01:28:37,169 --> 01:28:35,530 according to the Bible and then throw in 1946 01:28:38,879 --> 01:28:37,179 the fact that Chris says a lot of this 1947 01:28:40,819 --> 01:28:38,889 history around Lucifer has been erased 1948 01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:40,829 and I think we have a perfect 1949 01:28:45,959 --> 01:28:44,049 conspiratorial storm here he's also 1950 01:28:50,309 --> 01:28:45,969 pretty clear though that Lucifer is a 1951 01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:50,319 title not necessarily a character so it 1952 01:28:55,949 --> 01:28:53,249 gets really weird because it's Lucifer a 1953 01:28:58,279 --> 01:28:55,959 rebel who's working to help us and that 1954 01:29:01,829 --> 01:28:58,289 Promethean censor is it more satanic 1955 01:29:03,809 --> 01:29:01,839 it's a mess it's a tangled web I guess 1956 01:29:06,419 --> 01:29:03,819 just because someone goes up against the 1957 01:29:08,789 --> 01:29:06,429 established order we see them as a rebel 1958 01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:08,799 we see them as a William Wallace but 1959 01:29:12,809 --> 01:29:10,169 that doesn't mean they're a good person 1960 01:29:16,559 --> 01:29:12,819 they could be just as controlling and 1961 01:29:18,029 --> 01:29:16,569 psychopathic as the current guard they 1962 01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:18,039 just want that [\h__\h] for themselves 1963 01:29:23,729 --> 01:29:22,239 so obviously it's complex but I just 1964 01:29:27,529 --> 01:29:23,739 wanted to throw in a little [\h__\h] the 1965 01:29:29,969 --> 01:29:27,539 Vatican while we were on the subject I 1966 01:29:32,309 --> 01:29:29,979 don't know but a veneration of these 1967 01:29:34,289 --> 01:29:32,319 entities gives you power the Vatican 1968 01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:34,299 certainly had that for a while and still 1969 01:29:37,919 --> 01:29:36,489 has a gold Palace in its own City so 1970 01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:37,929 they're not doing too shabby let's not 1971 01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:41,049 get ourselves a tangent I know but I do 1972 01:29:44,789 --> 01:29:43,510 love the tone in Chris's voice when 1973 01:29:47,789 --> 01:29:44,799 talking about the behind-the-scenes 1974 01:29:50,369 --> 01:29:47,799 events of this last election I actually 1975 01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:50,379 wanted to add and the big spank or the 1976 01:29:54,719 --> 01:29:52,510 Clinton spanking to the title because I 1977 01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:54,729 do think that's what happened but now 1978 01:29:59,129 --> 01:29:57,129 with this recount thing I mean I guess 1979 01:30:00,869 --> 01:29:59,139 Jill Stein's behind most of it I had to 1980 01:30:03,500 --> 01:30:00,879 tune out now that we actually have 1981 01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:03,510 results but I did hear Clinton 1982 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:07,020 making a few comments about this recount 1983 01:30:12,410 --> 01:30:09,449 thing but you know what are you doing 1984 01:30:14,570 --> 01:30:12,420 lady just stop you falling down in 1985 01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:14,580 events people are equated the spot on 1986 01:30:18,979 --> 01:30:16,650 your tongue to assist from eating human 1987 01:30:21,530 --> 01:30:18,989 flesh have you seen that one fairly 1988 01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:21,540 convincing to be honest your closest 1989 01:30:26,030 --> 01:30:23,040 friends have been exposed your 1990 01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:26,040 Foundation's been exposed your old just 1991 01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:30,000 stop take some vacations just build a 1992 01:30:34,939 --> 01:30:31,920 little fortress of solitude and order 1993 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:34,949 your kids delivery we've seen enough of 1994 01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,890 you what I also liked about this episode 1995 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:39,360 is how well it fits in with some 1996 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:42,090 previous Joseph Ferrell episodes both in 1997 01:30:46,729 --> 01:30:44,250 the third level of power pyramid being 1998 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:46,739 the fascist international and also based 1999 01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,170 on the nimza and sonora arrow club stuff 2000 01:30:54,500 --> 01:30:51,360 we talked about a while back it could 2001 01:30:56,300 --> 01:30:54,510 very well be them with the hidden 2002 01:30:59,720 --> 01:30:56,310 technologies in the large piggy bank 2003 01:31:01,729 --> 01:30:59,730 that's working behind the scenes I'm 2004 01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:01,739 sure there are more - but the globalists 2005 01:31:05,570 --> 01:31:03,510 got spanked in exchange for a 2006 01:31:08,660 --> 01:31:05,580 nationalist and the TPP was scrapped 2007 01:31:12,890 --> 01:31:08,670 that seems like that kind of fascist 2008 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:12,900 international play in a way to me but 2009 01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:15,570 I'm dumb and I'm sure there are other 2010 01:31:21,229 --> 01:31:19,110 players too but also the idea of the 2011 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:21,239 planetary quarantine was brought up in 2012 01:31:25,729 --> 01:31:22,770 the Treaty of Versailles template 2013 01:31:28,189 --> 01:31:25,739 episode with Jo a while back that idea 2014 01:31:30,140 --> 01:31:28,199 is that if there was a major cosmic war 2015 01:31:33,189 --> 01:31:30,150 in the past some higher level would have 2016 01:31:35,780 --> 01:31:33,199 instituted some post-war rules for us 2017 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:35,790 surveillance and whatnot maybe that's 2018 01:31:40,910 --> 01:31:38,489 what UFOs are it does fit with the 2019 01:31:43,850 --> 01:31:40,920 mythology and the circle-jerk reality of 2020 01:31:46,910 --> 01:31:43,860 modern tech hard to say but it is a deep 2021 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:46,920 one I dig it and I'm glad we got it all 2022 01:31:50,930 --> 01:31:49,170 in before the end of the month we came 2023 01:31:53,150 --> 01:31:50,940 in hot out of the gate with Joseph 2024 01:31:54,860 --> 01:31:53,160 Ferrell and Anthony peek then we hobbled 2025 01:31:57,290 --> 01:31:54,870 across the finish line at the last 2026 01:31:59,570 --> 01:31:57,300 minute with John McMurtry Daniel 2027 01:32:01,790 --> 01:31:59,580 Pinchbeck and Chris Knowles but we did 2028 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:01,800 it and I think they're all pretty choice 2029 01:32:06,620 --> 01:32:05,489 episodes but this and dr. ferral would 2030 01:32:09,140 --> 01:32:06,630 have to be my favorites for the month 2031 01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:09,150 for sure the links between magic and 2032 01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:11,460 tech are strong the idea that most of 2033 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:12,960 the strange phenomenon the 2034 01:32:16,850 --> 01:32:14,610 counterculture is familiar with is the 2035 01:32:19,460 --> 01:32:16,860 result of occult workings and rituals 2036 01:32:22,010 --> 01:32:19,470 I love it if you're a flat earther or a 2037 01:32:24,410 --> 01:32:22,020 fan of this prison planet perspective 2038 01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:24,420 you have to have an answer for some of 2039 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:26,730 the weird stuff like Roswell and these 2040 01:32:32,180 --> 01:32:29,730 other sagas where elements are said to 2041 01:32:34,340 --> 01:32:32,190 have come from other places well with 2042 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:34,350 this mindset it could all very well just 2043 01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:38,250 be here in other realms anyway a lot to 2044 01:32:42,980 --> 01:32:40,800 like and it was another longer show so 2045 01:32:44,990 --> 01:32:42,990 you're welcome for that if you want to 2046 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:45,000 hear more sign up for plus or get the 2047 01:32:48,620 --> 01:32:46,770 7-day free trial at the bottom of the 2048 01:32:51,530 --> 01:32:48,630 page at the higher side chats calm in 2049 01:32:53,870 --> 01:32:51,540 this plus show we got deep into some 2050 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:53,880 projects like operation crossroads what 2051 01:32:57,260 --> 01:32:55,650 an interesting name since crossroads is 2052 01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:57,270 where you make offerings to entities to 2053 01:33:01,580 --> 01:32:59,880 get what you want we also got into what 2054 01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:01,590 Chris thinks was really behind the 2055 01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:03,840 Montauk Project and he breaks down how 2056 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:06,660 MK often was an offshoot of MKULTRA with 2057 01:33:11,300 --> 01:33:08,970 less emphasis on mind-control per se and 2058 01:33:14,210 --> 01:33:11,310 more on weaponizing the occult and 2059 01:33:16,670 --> 01:33:14,220 torturing kids for good measure classic 2060 01:33:18,830 --> 01:33:16,680 deep state stuff we also got to the fact 2061 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:18,840 that Night of the Living Dead was billed 2062 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:20,610 as a children's movie originally and 2063 01:33:25,700 --> 01:33:22,890 that it and the Exorcist were both way 2064 01:33:27,950 --> 01:33:25,710 more powerful in their first theater run 2065 01:33:30,770 --> 01:33:27,960 and that's probably because they're a 2066 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:30,780 weaponize to cause trauma I think this 2067 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:32,730 is a common observation that these 2068 01:33:37,850 --> 01:33:34,650 movies were way more intense in theaters 2069 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:37,860 and the official story is just that oh 2070 01:33:43,310 --> 01:33:40,320 well the technology was so fresh and new 2071 01:33:45,890 --> 01:33:43,320 and because people weren't familiar with 2072 01:33:48,530 --> 01:33:45,900 CGI and all this stuff it was the most 2073 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:48,540 real they had to date but I think that's 2074 01:33:54,140 --> 01:33:50,130 flimsy I think there might be something 2075 01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:54,150 deeper going on as does Chris but it's a 2076 01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:56,400 lot check it out because it is an 2077 01:34:01,250 --> 01:33:58,530 interesting perspective on little 2078 01:34:03,380 --> 01:34:01,260 pockets of unknown history so yeah I 2079 01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,390 think any higher side fan should dig 2080 01:34:07,310 --> 01:34:05,520 this one like I've mentioned I've got 2081 01:34:10,730 --> 01:34:07,320 several shows recorded we are going to 2082 01:34:12,290 --> 01:34:10,740 get away from some politics [\h__\h] because 2083 01:34:14,900 --> 01:34:12,300 I think we're all kind of sick of it and 2084 01:34:17,710 --> 01:34:14,910 this one to me was getting away from 2085 01:34:20,990 --> 01:34:17,720 that or at least analyzing it in as 2086 01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:21,000 interesting a way as could be but anyway 2087 01:34:26,990 --> 01:34:24,450 also higher side clothing is here my new 2088 01:34:29,959 --> 01:34:27,000 t-shirt company 2.0 better quality 2089 01:34:32,209 --> 01:34:29,969 designs from passionate higher side fan 2090 01:34:34,969 --> 01:34:32,219 artists and they all relate directly to 2091 01:34:36,799 --> 01:34:34,979 episodes I would love to see a design 2092 01:34:39,469 --> 01:34:36,809 based on this episode that would be 2093 01:34:41,509 --> 01:34:39,479 quite while but check out all the shirts 2094 01:34:43,370 --> 01:34:41,519 full color designs I'm sure you'll see 2095 01:34:44,779 --> 01:34:43,380 something you like it's my new baby and 2096 01:34:47,660 --> 01:34:44,789 I'm so happy because it's real 2097 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:47,670 professional quality as good as the best 2098 01:34:51,799 --> 01:34:50,010 t-shirt brands out there when you get a 2099 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:51,809 little money you can actually stop 2100 01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:54,210 compromising and do things the way you 2101 01:34:59,479 --> 01:34:56,610 wanted to originally and it's a 2102 01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:59,489 beautiful thing but either way I'm 2103 01:35:03,890 --> 01:35:01,440 getting out of here I'll see you soon 2104 01:35:06,890 --> 01:35:03,900 with what I think will be a pizza gate 2105 01:35:09,709 --> 01:35:06,900 show with David Seaman we shall see but 2106 01:35:11,509 --> 01:35:09,719 I've done my part today your move a cult 2107 01:35:12,919 --> 01:35:11,519 conjures of Lucifer's tech and 2108 01:35:20,180 --> 01:35:12,929 Quarantine errs of this island earth 2109 01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:25,870 oh no you see 2110 01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:30,560 no world isn't random it's attached to 2111 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:38,620 power strength control over everything a 2112 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:43,130 95 I strive steel yeah now don't that 2113 01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:47,850 job seem silly hello 2114 01:36:02,290 --> 01:35:54,840 here should I play recordings I'm some 2115 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:06,800 I'll be thankful when all exposed the 2116 01:36:17,090 --> 01:36:09,570 fastest way we see there's such a 2117 01:36:50,780 --> 01:36:17,100 difference between us and them dead 2118 01:36:56,380 --> 01:36:53,370 the 2119 01:37:23,719 --> 01:37:02,000 [Music] 2120 01:37:27,979 --> 01:37:23,729 they're cartoons and so typical of me to 2121 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:27,989 talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's 2122 01:37:40,099 --> 01:37:36,570 good and well did you ever hear argument 2123 01:37:47,770 --> 01:37:40,109 the nothing really happens it's no 2124 01:37:53,150 --> 01:37:47,780 secret that the state plans it's done 2125 01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:06,100 [Music] 2126 01:38:54,189 --> 01:38:36,460 Oh 2127 01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:54,199 [Music] 2128 01:39:09,799 --> 01:38:55,760 you 2129 01:39:09,809 --> 01:39:15,310 they're coming 2130 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:34,910 [Music] 2131 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:40,450 challenging 2132 01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:45,230 [Music] 2133 01:39:49,379 --> 01:39:47,439 we can 2134 01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:49,389 with